Marlborough went to .40s a couple years back b/c the 9mm that they had proved to be consistently inaccurate. .40 has more knock-down power too.
There .40s they got now are a hell of a lot more accurate than the 9s they had before. Im not saying they are perfect because they are not because they are S&W Tactical .40. The S&W should explain it all.
Yeah, CQB. At longer ranges though, caliber makes a difference. If caliber didnt make a difference, then tell me why they have all these different calibers.Again the caliber has nothing to do with the accuracy potential. 9mm, 10mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP all have equal accuracy potential at CQB ranges.
In CQB the accuracy potential of modern firearms that a department would consider issuing is so close that it's almost a non issue.Marlborough went to .40s a couple years back b/c the 9mm that they had proved to be consistently inaccurate.
357sig is an excellent round, I have a Glock 32 (mid size = G23) chambered in 357. The round has plenty of power, I liken it to the difference between shooting a 38 Special and a 357 Magnum.EOD1 @ 06 Dec 2004 23:33 said:I am undecided about the .357sig round, I don't have any range time w/ it but all it really is a .40S&W round with a .357 slug so I think it has potential but I have heard mixed reviews.
Well we carry 9mm berettas but those are our secondary weapons. Some of us carry sig P226 in .45. Maybe a few might get a USP MK23 SOCOM. I personally hate the 9mm for our purposes I think we should carry .45's or have other options being mission dependent. just my .02
I am undecided about the .357sig round, I don't have any range time w/ it but all it really is a .40S&W round with a .357 slug so I think it has potential but I have heard mixed reviews.
Im not talking about tactical situations, Im talking about defense situations that police officers once in a while get into. POs dont havethe option to just grab a rifle or a slug gun if they are taking fire. They use what is on their duty belt and they would like to have something that will get the job done. Dont get me wrong depts. dont issue the best pistol available, every dept has a different budget. Its all about ballistics and price is what they make their decision on. Caliber size, shape of bullet, weight of bullet, type of powder, amount of powder base on size of cartridge, and all that other good stuff that involves ballistics at the price tag that comes along with it is what I'm talking about. You're saying all calibers basically have the same ballistics. Not true.There is no "long range" shooting with a pistol for police, if you've got to shoot over 25 yards (and 25 yards is a LONG way) for a tactical situation you prolly should be using something else.
Im not talking about tactical situations, Im talking about defense situations that police officers once in a while get into. Its all about ballistics. Caliber size, shape of bullet, weight of bullet, type of powder, amount of powder base on size of cartridge, and all that other good stuff that involves ballistics is what Im talking about. You're saying all calibers basically have the same ballistics. Not true.There is no "long range" shooting with a pistol for police, if you've got to shoot over 25 yards (and 25 yards is a LONG way) for a tactical situation you prolly should be using something else.
Idk, I dont feel like getting into this anymore because it seems like we're getting nowhere. Maybe they were pulling stuff out of their ass when they said they switched because of accuracy. Maybe accuracy seems better to me with .40S&W because barrel length or something with the gun or ammunition we are using.
I think we should limit him to the Impersonating a PO thread that way he can learn what not to do when he's out playing cop with daddys stuff.SOT_II @ Tue 07 Dec said:Now understanding that your dad's a cop and you are not, thereby having no real insight as to the selcetion process makes everything a little clearer.
Idk, I dont feel like getting into this anymore because it seems like we're getting nowhere. Maybe they were pulling stuff out of their ass when they said they switched because of accuracy. Maybe accuracy seems better to me with .40S&W because barrel length or something with the gun or ammunition we are using.
Actually you're not really saying much that makes sense.marlboroughpd @ 07 Dec 2004 15:53 said:Im talking about defense situations that police officers once in a while get into. Dont get me wrong depts. dont issue the best pistol available, every dept has a different budget. Its all about ballistics and price is what they make their decision on. Caliber size, shape of bullet, weight of bullet, type of powder, amount of powder base on size of cartridge, and all that other good stuff that involves ballistics at the price tag that comes along with it is what I'm talking about. You're saying all calibers basically have the same ballistics. Not true.There is no "long range" shooting with a pistol for police, if you've got to shoot over 25 yards (and 25 yards is a LONG way) for a tactical situation you prolly should be using something else.