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His name is Joseph Collins, I PM'ed you the whole article
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In the 76th RTT, a few people were medically "deferred" due to injuries sustained during the academy (broken ankle, ligament, etc.) prior to week 10. They were not allowed to complete the 76th 
, but will be invited to attend the 77th RTT (from the beginning).
Hope this answers your question.
, but will be invited to attend the 77th RTT (from the beginning).Hope this answers your question.
Sorry Killjoy, but you are mistaken, Porno shop owner only lasted 1 day.
We lost several people to injuries at the academy, but if you can participate in training, it swings in your favor. Others managed to stay. One trainee had his appedix taken out, walked around looking like death, but eventually got better and graduated. My roommate broke his collarbone. He left early on Friday, had some pins put in, and was back doing push-ups inside of two weeks, guess he wanted the job.
We lost several people to injuries at the academy, but if you can participate in training, it swings in your favor. Others managed to stay. One trainee had his appedix taken out, walked around looking like death, but eventually got better and graduated. My roommate broke his collarbone. He left early on Friday, had some pins put in, and was back doing push-ups inside of two weeks, guess he wanted the job.
Question to the MSP troopers? Is this new? My cousin knew a guy who was in the 72nd got an injury minor(or least my cousin says it was minor) had to leave then came back and graduated for the 73rd.. Do they have a light duty PT that recruits can do if they are not injured to the point were it prevents them from exercising but can't do full speed ie walking on tredmill in stead of running? just curious?
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Was it Bruce? I think I know who you are talking about...luap112 said:
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There are some provisions for light duty at the academy (no running). If a recruit sprains his ankle, for instance, he is placed on "medical muffin" status. He can't run or participate in certain aspects of training (defensive tactics, etc.), and he must report to the medical bay three times a day for treatment and medication. This might sound all well-and-good, but the DI harrass those mercilessly on medical muffin status in addition to alienation from your classmates from often having to make up for your shortcomings. Also, once a week the case is reviewed by a doctor who gives his reccomendation on whether or not you should be dropped from the class. The longer the recruit is on medical muffin status, the more likely he will be dismissed. In many cases the recruits do the right thing and break the hatch themselves if injured. In my class we had one person dismissed for an injury (a hip fracture) after ten weeks. She was invited to come back to the next class, provided she was rehabilitated, but I think she did not come back. But, then again one person in my class broke his arm late in the academy and graduated.
Kind of an interesting unity concept, and interesting that if he/she gets an injury it is considered a shortcoming.....and in turn ostrasized by their classmates???
I'm all about dog eat dog, but dam, if you get messed up in there your gone???
Spin the roulette wheel.
All the money you spent and sacrifice you put in to train is washed- and to boot all your former classmates think your a piece of shit....
WOW- I love it, sign me up.
On a side note- When should anybody at any time be be considered to be "doing the right thing" by quitting.......
Bullshit, you keep going, just like your boy with the collarbone injury.
I'm all about dog eat dog, but dam, if you get messed up in there your gone???
Spin the roulette wheel.
All the money you spent and sacrifice you put in to train is washed- and to boot all your former classmates think your a piece of shit....
WOW- I love it, sign me up.
On a side note- When should anybody at any time be be considered to be "doing the right thing" by quitting.......
Bullshit, you keep going, just like your boy with the collarbone injury.
I'm all about "weeding" out the poopbags.
What about the ones that are giving the 100 percent and get let go because of their injury.
They are lumped in with the slackers???????
Yea, maybe I'll get the chance to be there one day......
And If I do- and god forbid I ever get injured, I'll never fucking quit, no matter who hates me.
Just found some of the above comments interesting.
It's no secret that your job requires one to be mentally strong.
But you can't always read a book by it's cover.
(that subtle humor is in my own mind)
What about the ones that are giving the 100 percent and get let go because of their injury.
They are lumped in with the slackers???????
Yea, maybe I'll get the chance to be there one day......
And If I do- and god forbid I ever get injured, I'll never fucking quit, no matter who hates me.
Just found some of the above comments interesting.
It's no secret that your job requires one to be mentally strong.
But you can't always read a book by it's cover.
(that subtle humor is in my own mind)
JSG2020
No. To tell the truth I only met this guy once and thought he told me he was in he 72nd then the 73rd but really can't remember it was several years ago. To Answer your question I think I May know who you are talking about use to work B-5? I think last time I heard in H troop somewhere? I thought he was just in the 73rd? To the MT1 and Kiljoy275 thanks for the info.
No. To tell the truth I only met this guy once and thought he told me he was in he 72nd then the 73rd but really can't remember it was several years ago. To Answer your question I think I May know who you are talking about use to work B-5? I think last time I heard in H troop somewhere? I thought he was just in the 73rd? To the MT1 and Kiljoy275 thanks for the info.
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Stubrie, as you have never been to the MSP academy ; I will take your comments with a grain of salt. The alienation that occurs is not obvious, or maybe even at a conscious level, its the natural resentment someone feels when you have to do twice as much as your classmate. Imagine your roommate hurts his ankle; even if his injury is legitimate, let me tell you what you have to go through. You have to clean up the room when the DI's trash it, and they do frequently, by yourself. You have to make his rack. Fold his clothes and do innumerable other tasks while he goes to sickbay. You also just completed a 5 mile run in the morning while he rode an exercise bike. You're all for helping a fellow recruit but after about 3 weeks of this, you feel pretty resentful of him, even if its not his fault. The rest of the platoon can help out, but then again they have their own stuff to worry about. When I said that injured recruits "did the right thing" I meant that with the high level of physical activity at the academy it is not the place to heal from an injury. If, after weeks of not participating in morning runs (which become a real espirit-de-corps morale raisers), not participating in defensive tactics, drill and many other aspects of training, one should face the facts that you are not going to graduate. Give it another shot when you get healed. And, many of the recruits on medical status (in the early weeks of the academy) are not legitimately injured and are sandbagging it. Graduating the MSP academy was and is one of the proudest days in my life; my graduation from boot camp and college pale in comparison. I shed blood, sweat, and tears for 26 weeks, but, and I know this sounds harsh, if you get injured and cannot keep up with the pack and participate, you should be left behind. I know I didn't want anyone standing next to me on graduation day who didn't go through the exact same thing I did. To do less is to cheapen the accomplishment for everyone.
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Yes, Bruce was at B-5. Great guy and he was in the 73rd...luap112 said:
Interesting.....
There is not a comment that I've made on here that should require you to take me with a grain of salt.
You missed my point.
Why would you ever quit, even if you were injured??
Quitting is worse than being beat.
If you quit, you get no invite back, RIGHT??
So if you stay, you live your own private hell.
So your saying that because everyone "hates" you over an uncontrollable situation, that you should leave and come back to give it another shot.
How can you if you quit.
Injuries don't happen in the first few weeks.
Weren't there females in the last class that were injured "in the first few" weeks that are on your job today?
Your saying that they did not have legite injuries?? (most injuries don't happen in the first few weeks)
That info was posted on another site detailing what they went through, and verified by one of your crew.
So your saying that those fine female State Troopers "cheapened" the experience for everone, and don't deserve the job????
I have the upmost respect for them for overcoming their injuries, and sticking it out.
Were you in that last class killjoy?
Maybe you can shed some light on this senario.
If I was to ever get injured, I'd hold the head high and get let go.
I'd have no issue with that.
My only issue would be, That if there were others in a similar situation and they were not let go........
That would "cheapen" the experience.
There is not a comment that I've made on here that should require you to take me with a grain of salt.
You missed my point.
Why would you ever quit, even if you were injured??
Quitting is worse than being beat.
If you quit, you get no invite back, RIGHT??
So if you stay, you live your own private hell.
So your saying that because everyone "hates" you over an uncontrollable situation, that you should leave and come back to give it another shot.
How can you if you quit.
Injuries don't happen in the first few weeks.
Weren't there females in the last class that were injured "in the first few" weeks that are on your job today?
Your saying that they did not have legite injuries?? (most injuries don't happen in the first few weeks)
That info was posted on another site detailing what they went through, and verified by one of your crew.
So your saying that those fine female State Troopers "cheapened" the experience for everone, and don't deserve the job????
I have the upmost respect for them for overcoming their injuries, and sticking it out.
Were you in that last class killjoy?
Maybe you can shed some light on this senario.
If I was to ever get injured, I'd hold the head high and get let go.
I'd have no issue with that.
My only issue would be, That if there were others in a similar situation and they were not let go........
That would "cheapen" the experience.
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:roll: Umm...No comment?stubrie said:
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