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I'm very much against this.

Look security is one thing, a federal ID is an entirely different animal.

Knowing how the Federal Gov't works...do you REALLY trust your info to one more database? Do you really think that it's going to be "more secure"?

I am all for standarizing a D/L and tieing them into one big database...but there is no need to store and mine this information one more place.

Just remember many of the terrorists were here "basically" legally and it's not going to stop a US citizen that has a legal ID from blowing shit up. Guys like Timothy McVeigh or a disenfranchized US citizen who buys into the terrorist rhetoric is going to blow shit up anyway...this will just make things "worse" in terms of "detection"...
 

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If they have all this information already, then it's pretty east to collect it and not build another database and system to mine it. As well the cost of the system will eventually be pushed back to the states.

It's very simple, every state has a D/L and a state ID card of some sort. Standardize them and move forward.

As well the other concern is that now private companies will ahve access of some sort or another to more and combined personal information. Having a wall between things like SSN and D/L number are important.

Lastly, if we continue to give up freedoms in the name of "safety" then we have gained nothing.

QUOTE=PearlOnyx]SOT,

Despite the threat of domestic terrorism carried out by US Citizens, the majority of the US terrorist threats still come from non-citizens. I see your point. This will not stop all terrorism, but is a tool to deter it. As far as information security, the US government already has all of the information contained on this card already. We are not giving them anything that they already don't know. We are simply standardizing it nationally.[/QUOTE]
 

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Yes but in the end is there a real need to have ONE MORE way for them to get my SSN#? and all my info in one shot? Nope.

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Well when I said that I was also suggesting the lone indivisual can get your SSN# anyway. How you may ask, well i'm sure some employees of those companies make use of the information they come into contact with for purposes they houldnt. Like or example a gas station atendant, or store clerk you give your credit card to to pay for something, who can save the carbons or make some record of the sale and use the information to buy goods over the phone or online. There is no way to completley protect your informaton, it sucks but thats the way it is.
 

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My concern is that it will do exactly the opposite...it will make us more complacent, and is just a bandaid. At some point after all these measures are in place...there will be a cottage industry and underground system to circumvent the various travel restrictions.

Try this, when you get a new credit card, don't sing it and see how long before someone actually gig's you on it....
 
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