I agree that honorable military time is fantastic...but what kills me is, I have a college degree and that doesn't mean crap when it comes to LE. Yet someone who could have honorable military time, and still be bloody psycho will get 2-5 points more then me on a test. :evil:
The importance of military experience?
Hi all, just a quick question for you. I am strongly considering joining the Coast Guard. I can see the many advantages; training,discipline,experience,vets pref, etc. I was just wondering how much of an advantage I would have for non-CS towns. I know vets get pref. with CS, but do non-CS departments consider military experience more valuable than CS? Thanks, any info would be great!!!!
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What about if someone is currently serving in the ANG? I ask only becaue I am thinking about joining with a Security Arms MOS.
John 77 you have to have at least 180 of active duty time to be considered a vet.
I think they changed this!NegroRotary";p="65255 said:John 77 you have to have at least 180 of active duty time to be considered a vet.
"bloody psycho" reminds me of my days in the bush..... :smokin:
I believe it is 180 days during peacetime and 90 days during war time. Since "major combat operations" are over in Iraq, I don't know whether or not it is still considered war time right now. I bet if you ask the guys over there, they still consider it war time.
john77";p="65302 said:I believe it is 180 days during peacetime and 90 days during war time. Since "major combat operations" are over in Iraq, I don't know whether or not it is still considered war time right now. I bet if you ask the guys over there, they still consider it war time.[/quote
Any active duty time since Aug 2 1990 is considered wartime service.
USMCMP5811";p="65343 said:My response was based on the fact that I got veterans pref on the 99 and 01 civil service exam while still on active duty....I joined in 1997. Also Romney has changed it to basically any military serivce., although I havent really looked at the new regs.billj";p="65322 said:Big Neg on that. It pretty much coincides with the issuance of the National Defense Medal. The last two being, Aug 2, 1990 till Jul 1, 1996 (Gulf War Part I) and Sept 11, 2001 to pres. Also there are specific campaigns that also fall into place such as Granada, Panama, and Lebanon.john77";p="65302 said:I believe it is 180 days during peacetime and 90 days during war time. Since "major combat operations" are over in Iraq, I don't know whether or not it is still considered war time right now. I bet if you ask the guys over there, they still consider it war time.[/quote
Any active duty time since Aug 2 1990 is considered wartime service.
Also found this link:
http://www.mass.gov/Eveterans/docs/wartime_chart.pdf
Oorah hard charger! I just noticed your username. All this time I didn't realize you were a fellow devil dog. What's your MOS? As for myself I was 0311 with 1-11 out of San Mateo Camp Pendleton. Holler back devil dog.USMCMP5811";p="64923 said:I agree 100% with Wolfman on this. Honorable military time shows a certain level of maturity in my book.Wolfman";p="64902 said:I think honorable military experience will get you an upper hand with pretty much anything you do in life. If a department does not consider military time to be an asset in police work, then you may want to reconsider being affiliated with that department. Personally, I would rate it more important than college.
I totally agree! We should get at least 10 more additional points!kttref";p="64937 said:I agree that honorable military time is fantastic...but what kills me is, I have a college degree and that doesn't mean crap when it comes to LE. Yet someone who could have honorable military time, and still be bloody psycho will get 2-5 points more then me on a test. :evil:
Did you attend PI in the summer months? Those sand fleas were wonderful weren't day? I was all gung ho about infantry until about 3rd phase of boot camp. My recruiter had made it seem like I'd be playing GI Joe in the field from 0800 to 1600 monday thru friday. That mofo never mentioned I'd be staying out there for weeks sometimes months. No offense to you but MP's are d*cks! At least the ones on Pendleton.USMCMP5811";p="65458 said:Proud American,ProudAmerican";p="65419 said:Oorah hard charger! I just noticed your username. All this time I didn't realize you were a fellow devil dog. What's your MOS? As for myself I was 0311 with 1-11 out of San Mateo Camp Pendleton. Holler back devil dog.USMCMP5811";p="64923 said:I agree 100% with Wolfman on this. Honorable military time shows a certain level of maturity in my book.Wolfman";p="64902 said:I think honorable military experience will get you an upper hand with pretty much anything you do in life. If a department does not consider military time to be an asset in police work, then you may want to reconsider being affiliated with that department. Personally, I would rate it more important than college.
All my info is in my screen name USMCMP5811
Broken down in 3 parts, first the obvious USMC
second MP being Military Police
third 5811 being the MOS code for Military Police.
As far as duty stations besides the obvious MCRD Paris Island and MCB Camp LeJune. NC. did my MOS Schooling at Ft McClullan (Ft McMuffin as we called it) AL, Did time with the 1stMAW in Okinawa where I got to spend some time in Hawaii, Guam, and a few other nice ports of call 8) My final Duty station was MCB Quantico, VA where you might as well have glued your right hand to your cover...... :roll:
I know State Police agencies really like to see prior military, but college degree's are becoming more important these days. I have an Associate's in CJ and plan to later pursue a bachelor's after i get on the job. If I were not to get picked up this summer, I will most likley sign on with the USMC or Army.
If I was you, I would sign already.
If you decide to go USMC let me know if you have any questions. I'll be able to let you know if your recruiter is BSing you. I can also let you know what to expect in boot camp and the fleet.EMcNeice";p="65498 said:I know State Police agencies really like to see prior military, but college degree's are becoming more important these days. I have an Associate's in CJ and plan to later pursue a bachelor's after i get on the job. If I were not to get picked up this summer, I will most likley sign on with the USMC or Army.
One more thing, He's right about how a college degree is becoming more important to LE than military service. This of course does not apply to CS depts but I have noticed it.
USMCMP5811";p="65366 said:That's weird. I went in in 96 and all I had to do was provide Ashburton place with a letter from my CO stating I was active duty and I got my vet status. This was way before I was sent to Afghanistan.billj";p="65359 said:Wow, Consider yourself lucky........ I also went in in 97 and did't get Vet status untill Romney changed the policy on Vet status. (The only thing I think the idiot has done right so far and no I'm not a Demacrat)USMCMP5811";p="65343 said:My response was based on the fact that I got veterans pref on the 99 and 01 civil service exam while still on active duty....I joined in 1997. Also Romney has changed it to basically any military serivce., although I havent really looked at the new regs.billj";p="65322 said:Big Neg on that. It pretty much coincides with the issuance of the National Defense Medal. The last two being, Aug 2, 1990 till Jul 1, 1996 (Gulf War Part I) and Sept 11, 2001 to pres. Also there are specific campaigns that also fall into place such as Granada, Panama, and Lebanon.john77";p="65302 said:I believe it is 180 days during peacetime and 90 days during war time. Since "major combat operations" are over in Iraq, I don't know whether or not it is still considered war time right now. I bet if you ask the guys over there, they still consider it war time.[/quote
Any active duty time since Aug 2 1990 is considered wartime service.
Also found this link:
http://www.mass.gov/Eveterans/docs/wartime_chart.pdf
McNeice what happened to the LAPD and the Vermont state police.. If you want to go into the service You will not do better than the Marines. and you wont have to ask if the recruiter is b. sing you. Assume that they are and take things one step at a time.
The military is my option if I am not hired by either department. I will be finding out from the VSP within a couple weeks, and that is looking very promising... I went on a ride along last friday night and the Trooper I went with, as well as another Trooper who is a DI in the academy both wrote emails to recruiting making reccomendations for me. I am still flying out to CA next month to finish the LAPD process and do a ride along with LA Copper. Family reasons, including the health of my father may keep me in New England for now. I'm tired of working security jobs and i'm ready to move on... I'm only 23, so If somehow things don't work out for me with VSP and LAPD, then the military would most likley be my next avenue. BTW, if i have any regrets in life, it would be the fact that i wanted to, but didn't join the Marines out of high school which was almost 6 years ago. So my advice I give to anyone younger than me is if they are not sure what to do, not thrilled about full time college... the USMC can certainly help steer you in the right direction
I went to boot camp on july 29, 1996. I took my first civil service exam in 99. When the results came back it showed I was not a vet. I called Ashburton and they said all I needed was a letter from my command confirming my enlistment status.
As for the MP thing a majority of them were d*cks. You give an 18 year with no life experience a badge, gun, and a whole lot of power it tends to get to their heads. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but you get the idea.
As for the MP thing a majority of them were d*cks. You give an 18 year with no life experience a badge, gun, and a whole lot of power it tends to get to their heads. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but you get the idea.
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