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PORTSMOUTH, NH — A Dover,NH woman who spent an hour interrogating local police in the District Court about a $100 speeding ticket lost her appeal to the state Supreme Court.
The local court found Christina Downs, 24, guilty of speeding after a one-hour hearing last October, when she represented herself and read from a list of 96 questions, filed motions, raised objections and cross-examined local police officers. After several scoldings from the presiding judge for straying off topic while acting as her own attorney, Downs was found guilty and ordered to pay the $100 ticket.
Downs appealed to the state's highest court, arguing that local police failed to respond to her request for engineering studies used to calculate the speed limit on Elwyn Road, where she was ticketed May 23, 2007, for driving 44 mph in the 25 mph zone. She asked the District Court to dismiss the ticket because she did not receive the engineering studies. Local police said they do not have them, if they exist.
In its order published Wednesday, the Supreme Court found the burden of proof fell to Downs to show relevancy of an engineering study to the posted speed limit and she did not do so.
The court concluded Downs "did not overcome the presumption that the posted speed limit was valid" and that the District Court did not err in its finding of her guilt.
During her October District Court trial, Downs appeared with her uncle, Larry Lemay, who whispered advice in her ear throughout. Officer Timothy Cashman testified during the hearing that after he gave Downs the speeding ticket, she sped off so quickly he pulled her over for speeding again, but that time gave her a verbal warning.
Downs questioned the officer's experience, his training, his work schedule, the radar technology used to determine her speed, weather conditions, traffic flow and his knowledge about law as it pertains to speed. She also questioned whether he knew if any other officer had ever dropped a tuning fork used to calibrate the radar devices and then filed another motion for dismissal.
Cashman responded with a complex mathematical formula used to determine how quickly she could stop in the event of an emergency, given her speed, demographics and using an "average perception reactor time."
The judge urged Downs to "get on to relevant questions," noting a full courtroom of other people with cases waiting to be heard. When the judge then began asking Cashman questions, Downs objected to her "questioning the witness."
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Nothing better than when a Philadelphia lawyer like this gets her ass handed to her by the court. Guilty, ....next!
 

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44mph in a 25mph zone = 19 over = $190 ticket

She was found responsible for $100...

After all that, next time she gets pulled over, I'm sure she'll be paying the whole fine and nothing less for her stupidity.
 

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In its order published Wednesday, the Supreme Court found the burden of proof fell to Downs to show relevancy of an engineering study to the posted speed limit and she did not do so.
Christina darling, if you're going to introduce something into evidence, might be a good idea to actually know what the hell you are talking about... Just a thought.
 

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I have skewered quite a few Perry-Mason-Wannabes on judge's appeals. Often times, its not the rats that are the problem, most of them simply don't pay their tickets then subsequently get their license suspended. Its the holier-than-thou soccer moms and college students who think that giving them a traffic fine is like suspending the writ of habeas corpus. They rant, rave, accuse, shout and flounder, most of the time to no avail.

I do take a certain amount of pleasure watching them wave around internet-spawned documents like they have a fist full of the pentagon papers. Then their balloon gets deflated as judges have to explain points of law to them, and how internet garbage is not admissible as "evidence". Watching "Law & Order" does not make you attorney, slick.
 

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remnds me slightly of that shithead from the subway killing ( colin ferguson ) that represented himself..I think he wanted to call the President to the stand before the judge called a halt to his foolishness....and of course GUILTY>>>
 

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Woman loses speeding ticket appeal

Woman loses speeding ticket appeal

PORTSMOUTH, N.H.-- A 24-year-old woman driven not to pay a speeding ticket didn't provide enough proof for an appeal of a previous ruling, the New Hampshire Supreme Court says.

The state's top court found that despite her passionate dedication to opposing a $100 speeding ticket, Christina Downs didn't have enough evidence to force the Supreme Court to appeal a district court ruling against her, Seacoast.online.com said Thursday.

The state Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the burden of proof in Downs' case fell to her and she failed to prove she hadn't been speeding on May 23, 2007.

Downs argued in both courts that her request for engineering studies in regards speed limit calculations have been ignored by the police.

She also spent an hour during her district court appearance last October filing a series of motions and conducting cross-examinations while serving as her own attorney.

Seacoast.online.com said despite such exhausting legal efforts by Downs, the woman was ordered to pay the $100 speeding citation by both courts.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/10/09/Woman_loses_speeding_ticket_appeal/UPI-53951223576215/
 

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Then their balloon gets deflated as judges
I also like it when the judge says "You do realize it is a preponderance of the evidence to find you responsible, that means, more probably than not you did XYZ.... you do realize that right? It is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And you probably did XYZ: responsible."
 

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That's what doesn't sit right with me here..This never should of gone as far as it has gone. It is wasting time and tax payer money while they cut into our benefits. This little brat who has who has been taught taught no self accountability should have been stomped on from the start. Why these courts heard these appeals is beyond me. I'm sure her family is proud of her instead of teaching her how to be a responsible person who takes accountability for her actions. This is symptomatic of our whole country. I just saw a report the AIG Execs who were bailed out by the US Gov just spent 400K of OUR tax money on a retreat after they got the money going to 5 Star Spas. That is exactly what happens on a grand scale when people aren't held accountable for their actions and are bailed out by everyone. It's whats wrong with this country, and is why we are in trouble. OK my rant is over.
 

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She's back at it! Still arguing and still speeding!


Christina DownsElizabeth Dinan file photo

By Elizabeth Dinan

PORTSMOUTH - A Dover, NH woman who fought a $100 speeding ticket all the way to the state Supreme Court - and lost - is scheduled to dispute a different speeding ticket during a Tuesday District Court trial.
Christina Downs, 26, petitioned the court for a trial to hear evidence related to a state police ticket she was issued and alleging she drove her 2009 Toyota Corola at 82 miles per hour in an area posted with a 50 mile per hour speed limit.
Downs' request for the speeding ticket trial comes one year after a similar trial at the same courthouse where she represented herself and read from a list of 96 questions, filed motions, raised objections and cross-examined local police officers. She asked the District Court to dismiss the ticket because she did not receive engineering studies she requested, while local police said they did not have them, if they existed.
Officer Timothy Cashman testified that after he gave Downs the speeding ticket, she sped off so quickly he pulled her over for speeding again, but that time gave her a verbal warning. In response, Downs questioned the officer's experience, his training, his work schedule, the radar technology used to determine her speed, weather conditions, traffic flow and his knowledge about law as it pertains to speed.
Cashman responded with a complex mathematical formula used to determine how quickly she could stop in the event of an emergency, given her speed, demographics and using an "average perception reactor time."
After several scoldings from the presiding judge for straying off topic, Downs was found guilty and ordered to pay the $100 ticket.
She appealed to the state's highest court, arguing that local police failed to respond to her request for the engineering studies used to calculate the speed limit on Elwyn Road, where she was ticketed May 23, 2007, for driving 44 mph in the 25 mph zone.
The Supreme Court found the burden of proof fell to Downs to show relevancy of an engineering study to the posted speed limit and she did not do so.
PORTSMOUTH HERALD
 
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