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Senate’s sweeping police reform bill would end qualified immunity

Discussion in 'Politics & Law Enforcement' started by USAF3424, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Javert

    Javert MassCops Member

    F em all. Hello midnights, LONG naps, netflix and details. The job wasn’t worth it in this state to begin with.
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  2. Mr Scribbles

    Mr Scribbles Mr

    Board of Oversight is a joke. It will be made up of folks with no institutional knowledge, just a rabid hatred of cops. Oh yeah, it'll be fair. Some sort of warped payback for any slight real or imagined.
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  3. Treehouse413

    Treehouse413 MassCops Member

    Too late for me to switch , but if I could would’ve gone into the trades .
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  4. USAF3424

    USAF3424 MassCops Member

    This job absolutely sucks. Now its alot worse.
  5. IamTheDude

    IamTheDude MassCops Member

    Normally I think we would all get a good laugh at these guys, but they may be on to something (instead of just on something).....
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  6. EUPD377

    EUPD377 Southern Campus Cop

    Oh I foresee the private security industry completely exploding with growth as more and more states go down moronic paths with their police forces. If I owned a business in one of the “defund” cities I’d seriously be looking at hiring some sort of security instead of waiting a day for a police response (or in some cases being flat-out told that their will be no response).

    My state (NC) has a statute for company/special police officers that allows private entities (such as security companies) to hire sworn law enforcement with full powers on their property. Think of it sort of like Boston specials, although they don’t have the same limitations and are considered to be the same as municipal cops under law, just with limited jurisdiction. They must go through a full academy and the attorney general’s office conducts a full background and polygraph before they grant sworn status. I’ve seen these guys everywhere from malls to HOA communities, to business parks. If our state ever fucks with LE to the point that others have and goes full reactive, I’d consider leaving my agency and starting my own private PD to take in that sweet, sweet money from businesses and wealthy communities that suddenly need additional protection.
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  7. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    Constables! Yeah! Their Day is coming.
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  8. USAF3424

    USAF3424 MassCops Member

    There he is!!
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  9. LGriffin

    LGriffin Always Watching

    Two-thirds are shitbags looking to ruin Cops.

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  10. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    1. Trendy "threat management" and "violence Intervention" in titles.
    2. Tangible visible deterrent
    3. $2M revenue with 60 employees means about $30k a year tops for each VIPER "officer"
    This will probably be a successful enterprise for 2-5 years. Then high turn-over, lawsuits, and eventual public realization that this is just another "rent-a-cop" operation with little or no government oversight will knock it back to nothing.
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  11. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    The owner is a Clownshoes. They are a fucking lawsuit waiting to happen...
  12. jjm98

    jjm98 New Member

    What is going to happen to recruits in the middle of a R/I academy? I see no mention in the bill that those will be given the chance to complete the class.
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  13. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    About 8 years ago, I used to work in a gun store. My co-worker/"manager" was one of the biggest dumbasses I've ever met; talked out his ass constantly about law enforcement and military related things he didn't have a damn clue about and was wrong about 90% of the time. BUT, one thing he said, and I dismissed it at the time, was that law enforcement was too understaffed and that municipalities and communities would start turning to private security forces very soon. Son of a bitch, that dumb motherfucker may have been right on this...
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  14. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    Knowing how the state works, it'll be "Nobody held a gun and made you shell out the money for this class. You can't fight city hall, so thanks for the $2,500. You'll get nothing and like it."
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  15. felony

    felony MassCops Member

    Well, looks like now when I go on calls, I will just have the parties involved sign a waiver, saying I cannot be held personally liable for police services rendered. I will have to bring the local bank manager with me of course, to be notary public on the waiver. Along with a audio and video recording, clearly releasing me from all liability. Only then, will I act.
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  16. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    I think they'll be good to go...............
    Until 0ne to three years later when their certification will run out, at which time they'll have to meet WHATEVER new standards the CPTC comes up with relative to FT or Bridge academy. Then again, it's all phukkin speculation cuz this was rushed and seems impractical in many aspects.
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  17. Foxy85

    Foxy85 MassCops Member

    Just to touch on this - seems like it’s gonna be a shit show. We have guys working PT with a 120 Hour long academy and guys working with the most current academy of nearly 400 hours.

    where do you figure out the bridge academy hours needed to become certified?

    what about guys (specials) who just work details? Will we have a separate “auxiliary academy”...

    So vague. Any insight is appreciated.
  18. RodneyFarva

    RodneyFarva Get off my lawn!

    My prediction is part-time and auxiliary officer already working will be grandfathered in with a caveat of further training required to bring them up to par. Any and all new hires must have a full time academy to work as a police officer in the commonwealth. We may also see a push toward regionalization of smaller police departments, I don't think we are done with part time guys all together, but if you want to work PT, AUX, ect. you must have the fulltime academy at the time of your appointment.
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  19. devenob

    devenob 2300

    Well a friend of mine who was scheduled to start the PT academy run out of quinsig got put on hold pending the decision
  20. Goose

    Goose The list is long but distinguished. Staff Member

    Did they have to pass the law to find out what was in it...again?
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  21. Tailon630

    Tailon630 MassCops Member

    Here’s another attempt to “appeal” to Baker to veto or change the bill... send an email doesn’t hurt I guess
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  22. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    Emailed! Never hurts.
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  23. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

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  24. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound MassCops Member

  25. NEPS

    NEPS 75th N.H.P.A.

    Not so fast... in the bill, constables must go to an academy if they want to make any sort of arrest.
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2020

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