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are there any campus police depts that allow security officers (meaning persons who are not sspos, not muni-specials, sheriffs etc,) to patrol in fully marked cruisers (ie "police" insign. and blue lights) ? i'm told there's an individual at umass/memorial with absolutely no police training/authority that does this. isn't this impersonating a po? this is the same individual that was punched in the face,pulled out of the cruiser and car-jacked 2 months ago(per worcester telegram article)[-X
 

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are there any campus police depts that allow security officers (meaning persons who are not sspos, not muni-specials, sheriffs etc,) to patrol in fully marked cruisers (ie "police" insign. and blue lights) ? i'm told there's an individual at umass/memorial with absolutely no police training/authority that does this. isn't this impersonating a po? this is the same individual that was punched in the face,pulled out of the:ermm: cruiser and car-jacked 2 months ago(per worcester telegram article)[-X
As far as Im concerned no security gaurd should be patroling in a full marked police vehicle.
Impersonating a police officer I would have to say no unless the person is using the lights but by the sounds and looks of him Im sure he doe's use the lights. I also read that article in the worcester telegram. The SECURITY GAURD from my understanding is the fat goofy kid with the tattoos. I did see him in the Court House a couple of weeks ago and he was wearing a patch and badge that said police. I believe in Court he also represented himself as a police officer.
 

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I saw the Nichols College people...I am not sure if they are "security" or "public safety"...using an SUV marked "Campus Police" with blue lights and the whole shebang, a couple years ago. Guy gets out of the vehicle and he was wearing a Guardsmark security uniform...go figure...
 

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I saw the Nichols College people...I am not sure if they are "security" or "public safety"...using an SUV marked "Campus Police" with blue lights and the whole shebang, a couple years ago. Guy gets out of the vehicle and he was wearing a Guardsmark security uniform...go figure...
Nichols College used to be Police. A month or so after Guardsmark they removed the blue lights on the vehicle and put yellow lights on. UMass/Mem should also get a vehicle and mark it with yellow lights and put SECURITY down the side of it so they dont run into a liability factor with there SECURITY WACKER. :moon:
 

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Pull them over and request to see a blue light permit. If there is none even in possession, gig the school. If the cruiser says police then the operator has to at least be a special police officer. If you wear a badge and patch that says police ,then they must be specials or otherwise they would be impersonating a police officer.
 

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Send them to Quincy on an "errand" and maybe Delta can take it from there!

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Pull them over and request to see a blue light permit. If there is none even in possession, gig the school. If the cruiser says police then the operator has to at least be a special police officer. If you wear a badge and patch that says police ,then they must be specials or otherwise they would be impersonating a police officer.
Depends on the school. Some private schools have it clearly posted private property/no trespassing. These roads and properties are NOT public ways or public property, therefore if they operate a marked vehicle on such their ain't a whole lot you can do about it. Of course this would not apply to most boston campuses as they are mostly strung along public ways. But most of the more affluent private schools are set on large isolated properties which are private way/private property.
 

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i met the above shmuk at an italian festival 2 years ago. he was wearing a private security iniform, umass-mem police badge and carring a gun. he told me he was working for a private security company but wore his badge in case he had to "lock someone up". i took a class with a guy from umass-mem police last month and got the low-down. apparently officer shmuk was hired by the old chief as a favor to a worc pd detective so the chief could get on the wpd. officer shmuk is now the only non-sspo in the dept. he has reportedly failed the sspo acad physical 2-times claiming he has bad knees/bad back etc. yet he still patrols in a marked police cruiser, wears a "security" patch and badge and answers calls. wow imagine this physical specimen as youre backup. i'm told he likes to imitate what he hears on the scanner from other local pds("who's the area tow" "wagon on, wagon") when he talks to the dispatcher. i'm told the same guys gf/wife was caught smoking pot at a 4th of july event on the campus.no idea of outcome. apparently neither the supervisors nor hospital admin will do anything about officer shmuk. better there than here!:beat:
 

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Depends on the school. Some private schools have it clearly posted private property/no trespassing. These roads and properties are NOT public ways or public property, therefore if they operate a marked vehicle on such their ain't a whole lot you can do about it. Of course this would not apply to most boston campuses as they are mostly strung along public ways. But most of the more affluent private schools are set on large isolated properties which are private way/private property.
umass/memorial has an open campus. they cover a smaller hospital and some medical buildings a few miles away and i think some of their parking lots/garages are off the main campus. i believe they use blue lights etc when responding to actual emergencies at other sites. i'm trying to find out how mr.security guard responds to emergency calls. now i have a mission in life. yay.
 

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RPD931 said:
Depends on the school. Some private schools have it clearly posted private property/no trespassing. These roads and properties are NOT public ways or public property, therefore if they operate a marked vehicle on such their ain't a whole lot you can do about it. Of course this would not apply to most boston campuses as they are mostly strung along public ways. But most of the more affluent private schools are set on large isolated properties which are private way/private property.
They have to leave the campus some time for maintenance, escorts, gas. :sly:
 
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I know that when I was hired at a Campus Police gig three years ago (and they still do this today), I had no previous police experience, and did not have the academy, neither SSPO or Reserve, but I was handed a Police Uniform, Badge, Duty belt with OC Spray, and Baton, handcuffs, and was issued these items on Day one. I was also allowed to drive the Police Cruiser on my 2nd day of training. So basically, I was wearing the uniform, with no experience, and driving the Police Cruiser and acting like a cop.. with no training.. I dind't think it was right, but who am I to speak up to my new boss and say ummm I don't think I want to wear the badge.. Its a Private College, but many off campus locations that required us to use main roads, and often. How is this Legal? How can someone who has no experience wear the uniform? I guess its not earned anymore...
Please give me some insight on this.. I was really torn on this..
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I know that when I was hired at a Campus Police gig three years ago (and they still do this today), I had no previous police experience, and did not have the academy, neither SSPO or Reserve, but I was handed a Police Uniform, Badge, Duty belt with OC Spray, and Baton, handcuffs, and was issued these items on Day one. I was also allowed to drive the Police Cruiser on my 2nd day of training. So basically, I was wearing the uniform, with no experience, and driving the Police Cruiser and acting like a cop.. with no training.. I dind't think it was right, but who am I to speak up to my new boss and say ummm I don't think I want to wear the badge.. Its a Private College, but many off campus locations that required us to use main roads, and often. How is this Legal? How can someone who has no experience wear the uniform? I guess its not earned anymore...
Please give me some insight on this.. I was really torn on this..
thanks
K
I know a couple guys that work on the campus with the SECURITY SMUCK they all think he's an idoit.
 

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I know a couple guys that work on the campus with the SECURITY SMUCK they all think he's an idoit.
Who cares if hes a shmuk get him to the Academy get him trained and then let him be a cop and stead of acting like one.
 

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:? Ah.... the problem is that if this guy is over the top as a security guard, as in doing things he' not empowered to do, what do you think he'll be like with the full authority and tools that go with it?

YIKES!!!
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At my old campus police job. You did not ride the cruiser until you got your SSPO powers and you were not issued a badge. Also you worked Dispatch until you got your powers.
 

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Who cares if hes a shmuk get him to the Academy get him trained and then let him be a cop and stead of acting like one.
("instead" ) i believe officer shmuk was registered to go to the sspo academy but failed the pre-screen physical twice. why bother working for something and self-improving if everything has always been given to you? is his pay as a security guard the same as a po?
get him an application from the nearest mall.
Get some white gloves, white shoes, a yellow

tubular costume and teach the fat,tattooed man to dance= :DB:
 

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("instead" ) i believe officer shmuk was registered to go to the sspo academy but failed the pre-screen physical twice. why bother working for something and self-improving if everything has always been given to you? is his pay as a security guard the same as a po?
get him an application from the nearest mall.
Get some white gloves, white shoes, a yellow

tubular costume and teach the fat,tattooed man to dance= :DB:
good call sarge; : :GNANA: here's your dancin' banana; i'd rather see HIM in a cruiser.
 

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Delta is an ediot.

Don't you have to be taking some offical action to be charged with impersanation a P.O. I don't think merely driving a police car is taking official action.
 

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Are you talking about the old Memorial Hospital on Belmont Street, or the UMASS hospital on Rt 9 and Plantation?
 
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