What?? SPAM doesn't have to negotiate for raises? Of course they do! Just because your Union can't get a raise, don't think that SPAM doesn't have to fight tooth and nail for everything.truthbetold";p="55163 said:sticking knives in peoples backs vor. The state police have been for years getting raises all along and us city guys have to deal with the crap of actually negotiating for one.
What a LIE. The MSP up until a few years ago ran cruisers with 150,000+ miles. My local PD trades theirs in at around 60K.You all have cruisers that are take home. We have crap ones with high miles and some barely run. You have all the funding in the world and we have to scrape.
A Massive LIE. The grass is always greener is all that is.For years the state police have been getting a lot and towns and cities suffer.
Obviously, SPAM isn't going to expend Union dollars or time to lobby for raises for local PD's. It's not their function. But I can guarantee you, if there is a Union with a good relationship with SPAM, and they asked one of the E Board guys to speak on their behalf, they absolutely would. I've seen all the BS stories here, but I can tell you for a fact, the Holyoke Chief wanted to bring in MSP instead of his guys on OT, and when the HPD Union asked SPAM to stay out, they DID.Where were you then as a vocal throw up artist. We have lobbied for raises and there the state is getting a silent 5% and 5% for two years. Enough is enough with your verbal garbage. You speak one way and yet turn your face another. As far as someone being a nooby so what he has all the right in the world to say what he feels. State police are the elite and yes i am envious of the money they make. They are phenomenal at what they do and their expertise is unparalleled. Yet you are here preaching about something and dumping on others in other rooms for the same thing you lobby. I don't want to be a state trooper because my career is already on its way down. We are supposed to be on the same team as officers. Yet i feel like you think you are better than all of us plain officers. I don't think so.
As I understand it, since 9/11 the feds have dumped a lot of money down the pipe for state government funding and any municipal agencies that put in for it. The LECs and sheriff departments got a nice chunk of change of the money and were able to 'splurge' on equipment and training to broaden the scope of what they do...and it looks like they either stepped on some toes in the process (or everyone else is worried about their toes being stepped on).wpd2209";p="55190 said:Just a quick question.
The letter from SPAM makes it sound like LEC's are a new thing. I believe NEMLEC was formed in the early 70's, not sure when METLEC was formed but I do know it was in existence before homeland security grants came about. So why does everybody think they're going to disappear in a few years?
Ahem, I have to step in say something here. Giving grant money to cross training LEO's to be FF's is wrong. :NO: [-X Police money for police training, fire money for fire training. Cross training LEO to be FF and vice versa is a bad idea. A FF with a gun is dangerous :shock: And a LEO aside from an arson investigator without years of training wont begin to understand idea of pyrolysis and fire movement, building construction, suppression systems, search and rescue, hydraulics, truck and engine company work, Haz-Mat operations etc.cross-training of law enforcement agencies, fire services, and EMS