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Poll shows Romney lacks support here

Most say governor shouldn’t run for second term or for president

BY FRANK PHILLIPS THE BOSTON GLOBE







Reilly bests Romney 48 percent to 41 percent in a head-to-head matchup for governor.






A majority of Massachusetts adults said Gov. Mitt Romney should not run for president in 2008, according to a Boston Globe poll that also indicates Romney would face a tough battle if he seeks re-election to a second term as governor in 2006.

Only 28 percent of those surveyed said Romney should seek the presidency, while 53 percent said he should not, with 19 percent saying they had no opinion. Forty-eight percent said he would not make a good president if elected, and 33 percent said he would.

The poll also found Romney facing some serious political problems at home if he were to seek another term. Just 32 percent said he should be re-elected governor if he runs in 2006, while 50 percent said someone else should be elected.

Democratic Attorney General Thomas F. Reilly bests Romney 48 percent to 41 percent in a head-to-head matchup for governor.

Not surprisingly, Romney’s support is strongest among Republicans. Sixty-nine percent of Republicans surveyed said he should be re-elected, compared with just 12 percent of Democrats and 31 percent of independents.

But his potential White House bid is not popular even among many Massachusetts Republicans, with 39 percent of Republicans saying he should not run for president and 35 percent saying he should. Andrew E. Smith, the director of the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, which conducted the poll, attributed some of Romney’s problems to the sluggish Massachusetts economy.

Forty-seven percent of those polled say the state is going in the right direction, and 40 percent said things are seriously off on the wrong track.

The poll of 501 adults in Massachusetts was taken March 5 through 8. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percent.

It comes as Romney weighs whether to run for president or seek a second term as governor. He has made several well-publicized out-of-state political trips, where he portrayed himself as more of a social conservative than he does here, and used Massachusetts and its liberal political establishment as a foil.

Romney can take heart in the survey’s finding that only 34 percent of Bay State residents said U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry, who drew strong support here for his 2004 campaign for the White House, should launch another bid for president. Fifty-seven percent were opposed to another Kerry run for president.

As for Romney’s future, Massachusetts residents appear eager for him to commit to either a run for governor or a run for president. Fifty-six percent said he should pledge to stay in office for four years if he runs for re-election as governor. Some respondents, on the other hand, said they would base their support of a presidential bid only if Romney did not seek re-election as governor.

“I would support Romney if he runs for president, but only if he does not run for governor in 2006,” said Richard Martin, a retired MBTA employee and a Democrat from South Boston. He said he voted for Romney in the 2002 gubernatorial election.

Only 25 percent in the poll said that if he runs for governor, Romney should leave open a run for president in 2008.

But even some Republicans interviewed for the poll expressed concern over Romney mounting a bid for the GOP presidential nomination. One, Paul Grisham of Essex, said Romney’s run for the White House would be “a shade of a reach” because of his inexperience in handling complicated foreign policy issues.

“I think he makes an excellent governor,” said Grisham, a 50-year-old clergyman with a nondenominational church. “But as a Republican, I think the party would be better served with someone with a more diverse and experienced background than Romney. It’s a very sharp learning curve for a governor.”
 

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I'm not sure I love this guy either. And this from a guy further to the right than Barry Goldwater.
Now, "I" could never vote for a Dem (AKA Socialists & Communists),
but I'm thoroughly unimpressed with Romney.
This statement comes from a staunch conservative in NH that held a sign for him in Tewksbury on election day,
and had a Romney\Healy Sticker on his car...

My impression thus far is that he took the job solely to advance himself in the party;
most especially, a bid for Prez in 08.
And I understand how the game works, but still, he hasn't done squat for Mass as far as I can see, and less for LE folks. Especially the DOC folks.
After all, the DOC commissioner is HIS appointee.

Now I only work in Mass, so correct me if I'm under a false impression,
but as far as I'm concerned; Mitt aint itt. And my State Taxes really haven't gone down, soooo, wheres the beef???
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I think Massachusetts would be well served with either man as governor. I voted for Romney in '02 and feel that he has done a pretty good job. However, I do not like the way he trash talks Massachusetts when he is visiting other states. I may not agree with everything that the Massachusetts legislature does, but as a politician, I would never "air out our dirty laundry" in another state. As for Reilly, he seems to be tough on crime and a no-nonsense type of guy.
 

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Hopefully with A.G. Reilly as Governor we will get a contract. Romney from what I understand has giving everybody nothing so far.I don't know of any state agency that has a contract. Imagine Romney having to walk one day of his pampered life in the shoes of the working people of the Commonwealth. Tom Reilly has supported us for a while and I think he understands L.E. more than the current Governor. As a Republican voter Tom Reilly has my vote.
 

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Family's Sick of Romney's Silence
Boston Herald (MA)
March 4, 2005


Peter Gelzinis
Once in a great while politicians do the right thing because they have to. Tuesday night, Gov. Mitt Romney admitted he made a mistake . . . because he had to.

A governor with national ambitions, who professes to hold the family unit sacred, can hardly be seen as the same bean counter who denied emergency sick bank time to a young state worker forced to care for his critically ill 16-month-old daughter.

When a bill allowing Sean Glennon's colleagues to donate sick days to him landed on Romney's desk before Christmas, it effectively died there. When the Glennons' adorable daughter, Avery, appeared on the front page of Wednesday's paper, Romney's flacks were suddenly saying, "Oh, we didn't know anything about the baby."

Thomas F. Sweeney Jr., 46, his wife JoAnn and their four children are still waiting to hear from Mitt Romney. They've been waiting since September of last year. That's when Senate Bill No. 2333 landed on his desk. It asked Romney to approve a sick bank that fellow correction officers wanted to create for Tom Sweeney. He ignored it. And because the Legislature was in session, the bill was automatically enacted into law 10 days later.

But that was cold comfort for JoAnn Sweeney. You see, she has this crazy idea that Mitt should've at least responded with a simple "I'm sorry, but . . ."

"I was very, very angry. I'm STILL angry," JoAnn said yesterday. "Those days in September were some of the darkest in our family's life. Tom was undergoing aggressive chemotherapy and stem cell treatments for his lymphoma. They had already taken out his spleen, which was full of cancer. On top of all that, of course, he's an insulin-dependent diabetic.

"At one point, I thought I was going to have to give up my job as a personal care attendant," she said, "or have my daughters take time off from their schooling to work for me.

"I just felt like I was carrying this tremendous load all by myself, and I hoped that he (Romney) would have the compassion to ease some of that load. But he just couldn't be bothered."

Tom Sweeney works as a guard at the North Central Correctional Institute in Gardner. His union president, Steve Kenneway, says that despite chronic illness, Tom Sweeney has sought to return to work as fast as possible.

As president of the Mass. Correction Officers Federated Union, Kenneway asked Romney in writing to explain why Tom Sweeney's request was unworthy of consideration.

"Tom's (10) years of service to this Commonwealth, doing the most difficult job in law enforcement, deserves a better response than what you have provided," Kenneway wrote. "We would respectfully request that time sensitive bills such as this be treated with more compassion and urgency than demonstrated by you . . ."

I asked Kenneway if Mitt's answered him. "Responding to unions is beneath Mitt Romney," Kenneway said. "Just as responding to the needs of flesh-and-blood families is beneath him."

"There's just one thing I'd like to ask Gov. Romney," JoAnn Sweeney said. "I'd like to know what he would do if he had to live paycheck to paycheck and then had to deal, God forbid, with a catastrophic illness hitting a member of his family.

"Doesn't he have any idea, any feeling, for where people are coming from?" she asked. "Or does he think everyone is looking to put something over on him. Real life gets messy and hard sometimes . . . real hard. Most people know that and want to help. We weren't doing this just for Tom."

Oh, by the way, if you want to know why Tom Sweeney's wife answered all the questions, that's simple. Tom Sweeney could lose his state correction job for going public with his story.
 

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Similar to the Presidential Election, I will be forced to vote for the Republican candidate only because the only other choice thus far is from the communist/socialist arena. I think Pat Buchanan should move to Mass and run for Gov.
 

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AG Reilly is hardly a communist/socialist, he is a member of the law enforcement community. Secondly, both parties have their good points as well as their bad. Most people can thank the so called "liberals" for the 8-hour work day/40-hour work week, minimum wage and the right to have a union, which most police officer's gladly take advantage of. Also remember those same "communist Democrats" were at the helm when we won WWI, WWII, and the Cuban Missile Crises. I personally vote for the person not the party.
 

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Time for Romney to go... he comes across too aloof and out of touch with ordinary citizens. :2c:
 

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Romney already sees himself in the oval office. Every decision he makes is geared toward the White House. He should have been smart and had taken a cabinet job with President Bush. We will probably see the Republican version of John Kerry and thats only if he makes it by the other candidates.
 

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Don't forget the dems are also responsible for federal income tax. They also boast William Jefferson Clinton, whose highlights include an impeachment, getting involved in the Balkans and Somalia and not giving the troops proper equipment (I am sure you have all seen Black Hawk Down), and letting Osama Bin Laden escape because it wasn't a "priority". Lastly, the bottom line is, if you are a white-heterosexual-Christian-male whose first language is English, you WILL be the last in line to receive anything from the democratic party.
 

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Right on brother! Herr Klinton was an inept boob who couldn't keep his fly zipped. He made the USA a national embarrassment with his shenanigans. He comes from an ass backward, shotgun toting state, 49th at the poverty level & 50th in education level and is the best the DemocRATs can put up. They'd still vote for that jack-ass if they could.

Now Tom "Saint" Reilly on the other hand................... FedCop seems to think that he's part of the LE community. I say no. Just like the elected Sheriff or District Attorney is in the LE community. Again, no. Maybe most of those who work under the AG, Sheriff, District Attorney are bona-fide LE professionals, yes. I hardly see some glad handing politician in the same league as us. No, never.

How can we vote for a guy who has never even owned a piece of property? Guy still lives in an apartment for Chrissakes. Always has & always will I guess. He'd be the first Guv to make a move to have a Governors Mansion I bet so he could save his first & last & security deposit. No way would I vote for that gun hating, law changing, liberal, self serving, HACK.
 

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I voted republican across the board but Mitt won't be getting another vote from me as gov. If it's him or a dem I will vote (none of the above) or write in HousingCop
 

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My Final thoughts on this subject---

DVET- As a veteran of Mogadishu, Somalia, I know first hand of the events of October 3 & 4, 1993. I also know that it was George H.W. Bush who sent us there in 1992 with minimal equipment, because it was deemed a UN mission! As we all know Clinton didn't do any better. I am not sure I understand your comment about the Balkans. That mission was a huge success; we bombed the serbs to the negotiating table, Slobadon Milosevic is rotting in a jail cell and the country is recovering.
As for the income tax comment, you are absolutely right, but what is the alternative? The federal government needs to have revenue to pay for the judicial, executive and the legislative branches of government as well as the military. Anyone who studied history, knows that this country almost went bankrupt under the Continental Congress, because of a lack of money. Ah, impeachment, everyone remembers Richard M. Nixon (R), the first president to ever resign, because of the threat of impeachment .

HOUSING COP- Your comments about Arkansas are right on, brother, but remember, the Republicans can't win the White House without those southern states----how ironic.

I am not a Democrat nor am I a Republican, my whole point in these comments is to highlight the hypocrisy of both political parties. These people do not represent average Americans, they represent the elites. Both parties are equally corrupt, they just work for different special interest groups.
 

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If you want, you can have our Gov. But she's already doing less then Romney did for you guys. Rell has got back so much money from LE I can't take it. During her budget speech she "guarenteed" another SP academy class this year....but last week it got pushed back until at least Jan. 06. Call me insensitive, but because she had breast cancer everyone thinks she's doing ok for not doing much. Personally I think she's horrible...But that's just my two cents.


It seems Romney is going to be forced out whether he realizes it or not. Call Rudy Giuliani, he'll fix you all up :)
 

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FEDCOP-I am a veteran of the Balkans and the whole situation was a mess from day one. We sat up in the mountains and froze the entire time I was there amongst many other logistical problems we encountered, mainly due to lack of equipment. I too, am neither democrat or republican and frankly not a big fan of the bi-partisan system on the whole. It is sad in most cases when you only have two choices-one to the left and one right down the middle. There arent too many candidates who are really to the "right". Naturally the left-controlled media will not give serious coverage to any candidate to the right.
 

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A third party is not a viable option: it can only act as a "spoiler". Remember Ross Perot and all the geniuses that voted for him? I know several guys in the LE community that voted for that nut (and I never let them forget it, either).

The only option is to pick a party and try to push it in the direction you prefer. So for conservatives, the republicans are the only game in town. As an example: George H. W. Bush is "pragmatic"...which means "pink" in my book (or go along to get along). After the dismal performance of his first term, I voted for Pat Buchanan during the primary, hoping others would as well and give H. W. a wake-up call. Whether it would have or not we'll never know. And don't think W is any great conservative. He's spending money like a drunken sailor and refuses to secure our borders. :shock:

Hopefully the republicans can come up with better choices than Giulianni/McCain/Romney for '08...or we can look forward to Queen Hillary. :evil:
 
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