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I think I already know the answer to this one, but i'll ask it anyways. In December me and my girlfriend are driving to Florida for vacation. It'd be nice to take my pistol for that added sence of security, but, I'm sure once I cross the MA border its illegal. Does anyone know of a way to get a temporary permit to allow me to carry during the trip or would I need to get one from every state i go through? Its too bad there can't be a universal permit... If the state of MA felt safe in giving me a Class A LTC than why is it that all of a sudden its invalid once i cross state lines... :roll: Seems to me like there a little "ball busting" going on here when it comes to our 2nd Ammendment right...
 

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So I take it then you are not an LEO. If not, then you need to speak with every state/jurisdiction you are traveling through for permit info.
 

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Nope.. very close with 3 agencies though. I honestly can't think of a good reason for other states not to honor MA permits. Super strict gun laws only make it a hassle for law obiding citizens to bear arms. If a criminal wants to obtain a gun, he can, and will, regardless of how many laws there are.
 

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Try and get an out of state LTC for Florida.

United States Code, TITLE 18, section 926A

Interstate transportation of firearms - > Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
 

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Yes I would check w/ florida regarding an outta state LTC, florida LTC's are honored by 13 other states (not MA) becareful in New York.

I wold rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
 

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I believe Florida is accepting of MA LTC's. Also, if Im not mistaken, there is a difference in gun laws if you are driving through a state without stopping, and stopping in state on your way....but as stated it'd be worthwhile to double check.
 

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Leave it at home, it's not worth the hassle.
Do you know this from experience?

You are covered by that US code as long as you dont stop. Yes, stopping for gas could change your status in the state, do so under extreme caution.

FL Does offer temporary LTC's. Call the jurisdiction you will be staying at, and find out how to get one. I spoke with a LEO about 3 weeks about this, and he used florida as an example becasue they are one of a few states that offer such LTC. Apparetnly its a temporary that has to be returned when you leave, my friend said he's heard of people being hunted down and fined in new england for not returning FL Temp LTC's.. The specific jurisdiction he refered to was Ft Lauderdale i believe, but could be invorrect on that one...
 

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You stated you are close to getting on with 3 different departments. Why would you want to mess up you chances by bringing your pistol to Florida? If you get stopped out of state and cited or worse, for carrying it over state lines, your chances with those 3 departments could be in jeopardy.
Is Micky Mouse really that dangerous?
 

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You stated you are close to getting on with 3 different departments. Why would you want to mess up you chances by bringing your pistol to Florida? If you get stopped out of state and cited or worse, for carrying it over state lines, your chances with those 3 departments could be in jeopardy.
Is Micky Mouse really that dangerous?
Was just asking a question pal... I'm not stupid. No, its not worth messing up my career. I'm just saying that I disagree with the laws. While it may be legal to have it locked in my vehicle, unloaded with ammo locked up as well seperatley, that doesn't do me any good if i needed it. The reason i would want to take it in the first place is for the road trip part of the trip. I'm pretty sure I could take Mickey Mouse unarmed...
 

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John J @ 23 Oct 2004 07:24 said:
Try and get an out of state LTC for Florida.

United States Code, TITLE 18, section 926A

Interstate transportation of firearms - > Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
Florida WILL issue an out of state LTC. My advise if you are set on carrying to FL is to get the permit, then you are allowed to transport between the two states.
 

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Florida WILL issue an out of state LTC. My advise if you are set on carrying to FL is to get the permit, then you are allowed to transport between the two states.[/quote]

My understanding is that even if i do get an LTC from FL, it is still illegal to carry the loaded firearm on my person during the trip. I'm sure I will be stopping at least once on the side of the road to sleep, and breaking down is always a possibilty. I'll just take some OC with me. As others have said, it doesn't seem worth the hassle... the last thing i want to do to jeopardize my chances with the acencies i'm applying for.
 

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"Florida WILL issue an out of state LTC. My advise if you are set on carrying to FL is to get the permit, then you are allowed to transport between the two states.[/quote]

My understanding is that even if i do get an LTC from FL, it is still illegal to carry the loaded firearm on my person during the trip. I'm sure I will be stopping at least once on the side of the road to sleep, and breaking down is always a possibilty. I'll just take some OC with me. As others have said, it doesn't seem worth the hassle... the last thing i want to do to jeopardize my chances with the acencies i'm applying for."

I mean this in the most sincere way.....is someone trying to kill you, or does the mob have a hit out on you? Why do you need to even take a gun on vacation?
 

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[quote="I mean this in the most sincere way.....is someone trying to kill you, or does the mob have a hit out on you? Why do you need to even take a gun on vacation?"[/quote]

Yes, Robocop, you are exactly right! I thought I had made my point, but i guess not. Like I said before, the fact that I am driving 1300+ miles, anything could happen. Break down, ect... Just like to be prepared for the worst. I work with the absolute bottom of the barrell of society at my job, as well as people with severe mental illness so i tend to be on the defensive side. i think the question should be... why should I NOT take my gun with me? Like I said before, the 2nd Ammendment says I should. You can't tell me If you were to take your family on a long road trip, you would not want to be able to protect them "just in case" you cross paths with some scumbag?

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"I mean this in the most sincere way.....is someone trying to kill you, or does the mob have a hit out on you? Why do you need to even take a gun on vacation?"

Seriously, if you're that worried about your safety while on vacation that you feel compelled to be armed, perhaps you should take a proactive approach and avoid this vacation to FL and go somewhere you feel safe! considerng the foresaid you will not relax and enjoy your vacation thus negating the premise a vacation is preempted upon. Also if you engage in alcohol consumption as many vacationers do while CCW then you are asking for trouble as you are if you bring your piece to the beach or anywhere else where reasonable vacationers frequent. People will question their safety and your sanity!
 

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The answer is....FL does NOT recognize MA's permit. Why doesn't FL recognize MA's permit? because MA doesn't recognize FL's permit.

Also note: If you where to jump in your car with your CCW, you would be "illegal" in CT, NY, NJ, RI, DC, , DE, VA, and almost every other state on your trip including FL.

Why? Since MA will not recognize anyone elses permit, very few states will recognize your permit.

Your options: Get a non resident CCW license from FL...not hard to do
just get the application, get it notarized, submit your training info, fee, photo, and wait 90 days.

Also UT is a very popular permit as it's recognized by so many other states.

On this trip, leave the gun home.
 

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The fellow already said that he isn't. Also HR 218 doens
t work if the state doesn't have a program in place to allow for it.

Not many states do yet and DC surely doesn't.

Check out HR 218. If you are a sworn LE officer you can carry in any of the 50 states. http://www.leaa.org/
 

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I wouldn't chance it. Why waste your time with the hassel if you are stopped. Plus, it isn't going to look good if you are trying to get onto a dept. Even as a sworn LEO, I wouldn't chance the new federal act passed. Odds are if you piss an out of stater off, they are going ot make life miserable for you. I have driven down that way many of times, stay on the main roads and don't do anything stupid and you will be fine...
 
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