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Reserve Academy Sponsorship

Discussion in 'Reserve / Auxiliary' started by TD624, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. TD624

    TD624 MassCops Member

    I figured I'd ask this question because I would really value advice from any Police Officers out there. I asked my local police chief to sponsor me for the next Reserve/Intermittent academy in Reading. The chief said that he would sponsor me if I cover the cost myself, but also advised me that his department does not currently use reserve officers. I guess my dilemma is that I could go to the academy, but I wouldn't have a job when I got out. Do you think I should take advantage of his offer to sponsor me? Do you think another department might be open to hiring me down the road if they see I've graduated from the reserve academy?
     
  2. jonny d

    jonny d ###

    what would it cost you?
     
  3. TD624

    TD624 MassCops Member

    The academy would cost roughly $1800. That wouldn't be a problem for me. Would it be a long shot to graduate from the academy and then try and get a job? Has anyone seen their departments hiring people for reserve officer positions after they've already gone to the academy on their own?
     
  4. Dan Stark

    Dan Stark Tears of a Clown

    Your chances of being hired with reserve are much better than if you don't have it.
     
  5. TD624

    TD624 MassCops Member

    Dan, that's a good point. Thanks.
     
  6. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound MassCops Member

    Holy crap, my full time academy was $1800. I'm old.
     
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  7. Goose

    Goose The list is long but distinguished. Staff Member

    The Commonwealth wasn't getting enough income from the civil service exam, so they have jacked up the cost of training to shaft volunteers and part time officers instead.

    Sent from my flux capacitor using 1.21 jigawatts
     
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  8. sharpie

    sharpie New Member

    the next N.E.R.P.I academy is 315 hours. It is being held at Middlesex Community College for the academic prtion, well this year anyway. Why not try to get on a department that has an auxiliary. Oh, by the way it's 1800.00 for the academy notincluding the books and all your gear
     
  9. Public Safety

    Public Safety MassCops Member

    I went to the Plymouth R/I and it was 376 hours. Tuition was $1800 which included books. Another few hundred or so for all the gear, luckily I was able to borrow most of the gear that I needed. We also needed to purchase 300 rounds of ammo for firearms training and qualifications so that was roughly another $150. So everything included, about $2250 give or take depending on equipment purchased. It is expensive, but worth it for someone trying to get their foot in the door in LE
     
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  10. SNHU

    SNHU MassCops Member

    Personally, I would do it. I did the reserve academy last year. While i didn't get any work from the reserve academy, it certainly helped in the hiring decision when I got on full time late last year. Now i have a full time LE job.
     
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  11. bbuck

    bbuck MassCops Member

    Definitely do it, i'm going through the Reserve Academy now and it's great.
    I paid 1800 to get in. You'll have to buy the belt and gear. You're looking at about $400 in everything (belt itself, cases, blue gun, handcuffs, etc). If you're craigslist savvy, you may find a belt there for cheap. Doesn't hurt to get in touch with your local department and ask about retiring officers, they may be willing to sell their set up to you.

    The cost of the firearms course is no longer covered by tuition. the 20hr course is $300 if i remember correctly. You'll also need 600 rnds of ammunition.

    In terms of finding a reserve job, having gone through the academy already definitely helps. If you've paid for all the training and equipment, the town doesn't have to. Not only that, but they get a working Officer immediately, instead of having to wait for about 6 months to use you.

    If you're looking to get on full time, having the reserve academy helps there too, especially if you paid out of pocket to go. It shows that you're dedicated and willing to work hard.

    Good luck.
     
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  12. haldog

    haldog MassCops Member

    TD... I self sponsored myself back in 2012. My academy then was $1,200. Be advised you will also have to pay for equipment, books, etc... R/I is not tough but its a commitment. I worked full time while doing it.

    I am currently still trying to find a job with it. It is tough to find a job with or without the R/I. I am almost wondering if the R/I is becoming obsolete.
     
  13. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    You only have 2 years from graduation then academy is no good
     
  14. haldog

    haldog MassCops Member

    Yeah I found that out the other day.. Thanks for letting me know!

    I have 4 months now.. I hope I can get something
     
  15. RunOne24

    RunOne24 MassCops Member

    TD, do you have a degree in CJ? If so, that R/I combined gives you the ability to apply for the SSPO exemption. This potential makes you much more marketable to college campuses as well as the major hospitals in Boston. You can read more about it here: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/funding-and-training/law-enforce/msp-acad/sspo/cert/


    j809 bring up an important point, if you aren't with a department within 2 years of graduating, your Academy Certification expires. So yes, it's a bit of a gamble.
     
  16. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    Does attending in-service keep your R/I status current ?
     
  17. haldog

    haldog MassCops Member

    pahapoika, as far as I know, no. You have to be working within 2 years or it expires.
     
  18. RunOne24

    RunOne24 MassCops Member

    No, as of now, it does not.

    There was talk of Sgt. Richard LeBel of MLETA running a class that keeps graduates updated and extends the time before expiration. However, I'm not sure if graduates outside of MLETA would be able to attend.
     
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    RunOne24 MassCops Member

  20. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    that stinks. given the time it takes to find a job in this state if someone shows the initiative to attend in-service every year you would think they could stay certified.
     
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  21. bbuck

    bbuck MassCops Member

    If i see Sgt. LeBel Saturday morning, i'll ask him about all this.
    Sometimes he's there before class, sometimes he's not
     
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  22. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    The R/I academy is a great, don't get me wrong. I learned a LOT when I was there. However, I wish I had had the money to do the full time course. After I graduated, I applied for a bunch of reserve, seasonal, and even auxiliary jobs, only to be told that due to the number of applicants with full time certification, R/I applicants were not going to be considered unless the FT applicants were knocked out of the process...and that was just the departments who bothered to even call or write me back. Even the department that sponsored me to the R/I academy passed me over for a guy with the FT. Honestly, I don't blame them and it wasn't anything personal (as far as I know ;)) . Let's see, we have two applicants, both of good moral character, but we got a guy with 242 hours of training vs. a guy with 800 hours of training. Not much contest. Also, consider that you'll meet the requirements of most school PDs that require SSPO in addition to the ones that require MPTC training if you do full time. You may even find some other states that will allow you to be immediately certified or to take an abbreviated course to be certified there as well, with or without experience.

    There were a few people in my class who who did get hired after the academy, but the majority of us had no luck in finding jobs. YMMV, but I'd recommend taking a hard look at doing FT if you can afford it.
     
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  23. haldog

    haldog MassCops Member

    I applied for three police academies as a self sponsor. WMass, Reading and Plymouth to get declined from all three... I hope this wait period isn't much longer.
     
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    visible25 Supporting Member


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  25. RyanD145

    RyanD145 New Member

    hey guys just to add on to the sponsored academy:

    I just got confirmation from a sponsoring chief to go to the academy but will be paying for it out of my own pocket. Is this really worth the commitment to get a legit LE job or am I wasting my time? and will I only be able to get on non civil service towns?

    thanks, any input will be useful guys
     

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