Swimfins, If your department DOES NOT take any laterals, and are hiring, you will get a card. 1 job=3 names, 2 jobs=5 names, 3 jobs=7 names etc, etc. Other question, I believe if there is a tie it becomes a bit complicated. Say there are three people tied for number 1, I don't think they send out cards to anyone lower. The next lowest rank if that was the case would be 4. Swimfins, where you are number 2, there is no tie for 1. This all hinges on if your department hires and they do not take laterals. Laterals can be taken without calling for a list. To anyone looking for help with the Civil Service Law (Ch. 31), don't bother reading the book. It reads about as clear as a puddle of mud. You might want to call down to HRD and see if you can get an answer on the ties. Hope this helps.