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Re: Police Detail slashed in transportation refrom pitch

As of 7/1/08 the laborer prevailing wage is going to be $47 hr which is what they would have to pay a flagman. Maybe we should all become flagmen part-time and have no responsibilities on a detail like we do now.
 

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Re: Police Detail slashed in transportation refrom pitch

Overtime is almost non-existent in MANY communities around the commonwealth. We have no choice but to rely on details, not like LA where you guys have very high base salaries and lots of OT.
 

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Re: Police Detail slashed in transportation refrom pitch

I think the "detail reform" was only thown in there to distract everyone from the real priority the have of merging the MassPike, Massport, and MBTA into one animal. The big question there is does the Transit Police become MSP or do Troops E & F become Transit domain?
That is exactly it, alot of stuff going on that i won't talk about here but call your MASSCOP regional VP and talk to them. Last time this happened was in 1990-91 when the resolution was the MSP merger.
 

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You are absolutely right USMC Trooper, guys on MSP and local PDs, some are really screwing the pooch for all of us. The supervisors need to be more active in monitoring their troops in the field.
 

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The latest update pertaining to police details is that our problem is not with the House of Representatives, but the Senate. The Senate President along with Senator Baddour attached an amendment to the Bond Bill, NOT A DETAIL BILL, but language that regulates details. MCOP has teamed with other police unions and is attempting to get this language changed.

President Cameron said this morning that the Bond Bill, with the detail language, is being voted on today at 1 p.m. in the Senate. This language or movement was cleverly crafted by the Senate President Murray and Sen. Baddour, so that it is almost impossible to vote against, because it is directly tied to Federal funding for highway projects. President Cameron and 1st Vice President Scanzio have been feverishly working to block this language and will be attending the vote today. Senate President Murray has gone at this, the same way they went at the Casino issue, making it difficult for any Senator to stand against the bill. She has made this her personal agenda, to be the lead on reforming this State. As soon as I hear anything new, I will update you all.
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If it's written by a city or town PD, the civil infraction goes to the city or town. Do you really think the civil infractions written by the state police on city or town roads go to the city or town?
I was told by many troopers that the money does all go to the town if it's written in the town but if if its written on the hwy then the town gets a small portion.
 

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YEah but many Pds have nothing in their CBAs except wage rules and many many Pds have no bylaws or ordinances either. So what happens to them?

Still needs to be approved by the Governor which I heard is now in favor of details.

Transportation Bond Bill Police Detail Reform Update
April 3, 2008
As pledged, the Massachusetts Coalition of Police has worked tirelessly in protecting our membership's interests in detail reform. Despite the rumor mongering, the slinging of half-truths, in addition to complete and outright fabrication, being published by some uninformed and uninvolved groups, the Massachusetts Coalition of Police alongside the Boston Police Patrolman's Association and the International Brotherhood of Police Officers were able to sift through the rubble and determine fact from fiction. Working in unison with these groups we were able to get amended language placed
into the Senate version of the Transportation Bond Bill. This language protects our
rights under city and town ordinances, by-laws, and collective bargaining agreements.
This coupled with the Governor's assurance that we will have input into the drafting and
implementation of the proposed regulations and recommended guidelines gives us
material to work with.

The matter is by no means resolved. Armed with the facts and the positive progress developed over the past week and most importantly the past two days, the Massachusetts Coalition of Police will continue to work diligently for our membership and strives to preserve the public safety of the communities we serve and the interests of our membership.
 

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Re: Gov.: Changes To Mass. Police Details Nearly Done

It will be very interesting when you have an accident at a site where a flagman caused it. I think some case law will come out of that.
 

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Local ordinances are no good as state law will supersede it. CBA are good for now, we are members of a large police union that have people working on this. Don't worry too much about this nonsense.
 

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Sheriffs are working details because US police are f*cking greedy and our rates are so much higher than the MSP on details that Mass Highway bypasses us and call the Sheriffs. Wake up people, get the rates to reasonable numbers, no more $92 hr for a Lt on a detail or $96 hr for details after midnight rates.
 
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