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Does anyone have any experience with a pistol cartridge carbine. Im looking for something possibly chambered in 9mm or such that I can use inside at the range. Theres so much out there from ARs chambered down to MP5 clones etc.... does anyone have anything in their collection that they are a fan of and why?
 

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Do you already have an AR platform? If so, .22 kits are cheaper and ammo is much cheaper.
They make 9mm Colts that use UZI Mags...DOE used to use them. My friend has a 9mm dedicated AR that uses glock mags. Its ok....
Mp5 knockoffs in 9mm tend to be pricey. HKs civilian stuff tends to be pretty neutered if you can find it.
 

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Do you already have an AR platform? If so, .22 kits are cheaper and ammo is much cheaper.
They make 9mm Colts that use UZI Mags...DOE used to use them. My friend has a 9mm dedicated AR that uses glock mags. Its ok....
Mp5 knockoffs in 9mm tend to be pricey. HKs civilian stuff tends to be pretty neutered if you can find it.
I have a few ARs and have thought about the .22 conversion kits. I may go that route if I cant find something that screams buy me!

I looked at a few different AR platform 9mms but im always concerned about mag availablilty with those.

BTW Anyone who suggests a CX4 clearly does not care about my best interests! While it would def fit the build its ugly as hell. My fellow shooters would laugh me off the range with that ugly duckling. :eek: haha

Thanks for everything guys!
 

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Lone Wolf makes the 9mm AR that takes glock mags. Can use the Korean knock-off 32 Rounders .....if you live in NH.
The colts use UZI mags and the gun and mags are significantly more expensive. You can get a dedicated .22 upper, or just the BCG, the weak point are the mags...Think Spikes are ok, just use jacketed ammo.
High Point is like Kel-Tec, something that people I respect own, but I could never buy or reccomend due to my own prejudice.
 

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If you are going sub-.223 on an AR platform, go with a .22LR conversion. CMMG makes some nice ones for about $200 and up, or you could get a dedicated .22LR upper from Spike's Tactical or another company, or go with the M&P 22 for less.

Order of cost, from lowest to highest...

.22LR conversion kit (use your existing barrel and upper; change out the bolt carrier and slide the .22LR chamber into your .223 chamber)

M&P 22

Dedicated .22LR upper

I bought a Spike's Tactical upper right before CMMG came out with their kits and also right before S&W came out with their .22LR M&P rifle. I was kicking myself because of the cost and reliability issues, but getting a rounded (rather than a notched) hammer on my lower fixed the majority of the issues I was having.
 

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Ruger made the PC9 (9mm) and PC4 (.40) for a while, but discontinued them in 2006, since most PDs were going the AR platform route. They can still be had for around the $500 mark...though I saw one with fear-pricing at the Manchester show last weekend for around $800. Most you see were department trade-ins, so they often have little use.
The PC9's are a bit rarer than the PC4's, as they were only produced for a few years.

Looks and feels sort of like a 10/22 on steroids. Neat, basic, sturdy guns, pretty accurate even out to 100 yds. Not much in the way of aftermarket accessories. Stocks are all basic black polymer. The PC4 (sometimes unofficially referred to as the PC40) uses the same magazine as the Ruger P91 and P944. The PC9 takes pretty much any Ruger P-series 9mm mag.
 
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