Officers Forced/Ordered in

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Chief Wiggins

Discussion Starter · Sep 12, 2008

In the near future my union will be involved in negotiations. During the past 6 months Officers/Sergeants have been forced/ordered in to work a patrol, supervisor shift. This has been a new occurrence for our department. and we currently have no contract language pertaining to this topic (only rules& regs).

I am looking for language/compensation that other departments utilize when an Officer/Sergeant is forced to stay or is ordered in. We are looking for language that pertains to OT shifts that cannot be filled and not for emergency circumstances, i.e. nature disasters.

Please PM me with any answer(s).

Thanks.

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SinePari

· #9 · Sep 13, 2008

Ju$t call $inePari to fill your open $hift$...wherever you are. You know, mutual aid for public safety and all...

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SinePari

· #17 · Sep 14, 2008

Chief Wiggins said:
I appreciate all the responses, the issue of being forced has never really been an issue until recently due to Officer shortage. All the shifts have been on the weekend 12-8 shift. We have started a rotation list starting from the bottom and working its way up.

Since the rotation has been in place all call's placed have mysteriously gone to voice mail . I guess the next step is stopping by their house.

It's not the National Guard and you can't force people into work with the stroke of a pen, so it sounds like you're setting the stage for hiring more officers...which, I assume, is what you're looking for.

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SinePari

· #19 · Sep 15, 2008

I'm no admin guy but if you show the OT and forced shifts over the last few years, it would be simple to justify the need for new hires.

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· #23 · Sep 16, 2008

chief801 said:
Don't forget to add in the costs for benefits...that is usually what kills the idea. It is not as simple as hire one guy for $50,000 and he'll absorb 210 shifts a year to eliminate overtime. Add another $20,000, so you are spending $70,000 to save $50,000.

But that would mean your town/city council would have to justify keeping your dept continuously understaffed in the name of $20K (not sure how big your town is). Having another officer hired means you have predictable payroll expenses, whereas OT has to be scraped up from some other fund usually.

Again I'm not a numbers gut but I'm just rambling about your staffing levels.

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