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Officer Uses Knife to Thwart Disarm Attempt

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Train to carry a knife on the support side uniform pants pocket and practice fast deployment. In a gun grab, carrying the knife on the same (gun) side prevents use of the knife for defense if the gun hand is locked up in the fight.

The Emerson Commander is the fastest deploying knife I have used. One hand only is needed and it opens by catching the pocket lip by use of the his top hook design on the blade. Good friend and mentor Henk Iverson taught us his system and it is very effective. In a close quarter fight for life, it is a skill that can save your life. A good knife does not come in low cost. What is your life worth?

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TULSA, Oklahoma -

A Tulsa police officer stabbed a suspect after the suspect grabbed his gun and tried to get it out of his holster.

The officer happened to have a knife and used it to stop the suspect and stay alive.

People who have been on the department for 20 years say they can't ever remember a time when an officer saved himself by using a knife.

The suspect, Jeremy Thomas, 38, was released from the hospital Thursday and booked into the Tulsa County jail. He was transferred to jail in Osage County, where he was wanted for driving without a valid driver's license and speeding.

Witnesses heard the officer yelling over and over, "Let go of my gun, let go of my gun."

It's a reminder of how dangerous police work is and how fast things can turn deadly.

Rookie officers in Tulsa are trained to defend themselves and protect their gun during a struggle.

Officers say those skills aren't needed all that often.

"We have people resist us, trying to escape, all the time-that's very common for officers to deal with that," said Sgt. Virgil Litterell. "It's not common to have somebody take it a lot further, attack you, tackle you to the ground, start punching you in the face in a brutal assault against the officer. That's not common, at all."

Litterell trains rookies in hand-to-hand combat situations. He said being attacked can happen very fast, and fights, unlike the movies, are filled with exhaustion and fear.

He said people have the misconception police officers somehow breeze through these situations.

"The average officer is not some skilled MMA/UFC type fighter. They're not. The average officer is a lot like anybody else," Litterell said. "They've had some training, for sure, but they're nowhere near a practiced or skilled fighter. Their fitness program mirrors the average citizen. They're not super human."

He said deadly force decisions are never easy, but if someone is shooting at an officer, it's pretty basic: the officer shoots back.

In a fight, though, he said it can be tough to decide when to switch from fighting to using something that could kill the suspect.

"I think anybody, no matter how much experience you have, if you're being dominated, you know you're unable to control the situation, you know you're losing," Litterell said. "You talk about, we have to win-the idea of winning is slipping out of your grasp and you have to do something. It's a very frightening scenario, for sure."
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Fixed blade boot/belt knife in the winter. S&W HRT, Summer CRKT Kiss weak side. If it comes down to it, both can buy you an edge. For all those bleeding hearts, the Marquis of Queensbury doesn't live in an alley. We (LEO's) all learn quickly a 'signature move" to take down an uncompliant bad guy. If it gets out of hand, remember, if you're writing a use of force report after, they do call it USE OF FORCE-so USE IT! Don't be afraid to put the word 'fear" in it whether you were worried about bystanders, yourself or even the suspect-that last one sends Def Atty's into a real tizzy! Long and short-WE go home p-e-r-i-o-d!!
You may forget a lot of stuff during your career, but you never forget your first arrest, or the first time somebody pops you while you're in uniform...hmmm new thread?
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Always good to have a plan B, C, ect.
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Fixed blade boot/belt knife in the winter. S&W HRT
Great choice! Nothing faster or sturdier than a fixed blade, and at $20 bucks its not a heartbreaker if it gets lost/broken/booked into evidence. Small and discreet enough to blend in on the belt.
K-Bar BK 11 behind my radio. No one is the wiser. Blends in with uniform.
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I hope Jeremy Thomas got the Billy Dee Williams treatment ala "Night Hawks"
Whatever works.
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