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MPTC Waiver?

Discussion in 'MPTC' started by Heisenberger5, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. bikecop34

    bikecop34 MassCops Member

    I'm a little baffled at the prospect of the MPTC running a class for strictly Guard members, when the discussion they should be having is a waiver process for the already fully trained MP's returning from active duty! What a waste of time and money. I know of someone who served in the Army for 7 years, the last of which as a MP/Drug Investigator with a tour in Afghanistan, who completed BMT AND I believe 12 weeks in a military police academy, who isn't qualified for a waiver. That seems ridiculous to me. But then again, it's all about the $$$ for the MPTC and they won't make any off waiving our returning troops.
  2. samadam78

    samadam78 MassCops Member

    If an sspo acadmey graduate with
    Time on the street at one of the
    Colleges enforcing mass criminal law cant get a waiver then there is no way someone enforcing military policy in a foreign country is getting a waiver
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  3. Pvt. Cowboy

    Pvt. Cowboy Lemme take a selfie Staff Member

    I don't even have a dog in this fight, but it's complete bullshit. Tired of seeing SSPO's fucked over.
  4. felony

    felony MassCops Member

    MPTC Director Zivkovic is pompous and disconnected. I have personally spoken with him before and he was rude and arrogant. The MAARNG receiving a bridge class to the MPTC is ridiculous. First off, OSUT for a 31B is 20 weeks, 10 weeks basic, 10 weeks MOS training. So other then learning how to do front learning rest and shooting a azimuth for compass reading, your not learning dick about LE for the first 10 weeks. After that its very basic LE functions that are taught, its mostly battlefield operations, since most MP's don't stand post or patrol a post anymore.

    Bare in mind in a MP unit, there is only about 60 MP's, the rest are support personnel attached to the unit. I bet this is a knee jerk reaction to the Marathon Bombings, which activated several MP units to provide assistance during the crisis.
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  5. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    I am very much in the minority here and know it, but, and this is in no way a disrespectful shot at Court Officers, but does a Court Officer really NEED a 26 week academy complete with Ch. 90 instruction? It would seem a bit of a silly to shell out that kind of time and money when all a Court Officer REALLY needs is Mass. General Law, Constitutional Law, Rights of arrest and self defense. ONE academy does NOT fit all, although we'd all love to see more standardization and more is needed, but I just can't get behind EVERYONE going to the same one.
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  6. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    the one good thing about standardized training is when you have interaction with other agencies everybody is on the same page. Plus it would make for a more cohesive LE community instead of the warring tribal factions that we have now :cool:

    it may involve some non applicable training but it can't hurt to have an idea of each other's jobs
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  7. Pvt. Cowboy

    Pvt. Cowboy Lemme take a selfie Staff Member

    No, court officers should have training specific to their faculty, much like a corrections officer doesn't have the same academy as their job is with the prison system.

    Sspo should be grandfathered to MPTC. Seriously. I have zero dog in the fight, but it's pathetic that the admins use it as a tool to keep officers from leaving colleges/hospitals.
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  8. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    I agree with that.
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  9. felony

    felony MassCops Member

    In Rhode Island the Capitol Police, provide physical security to state owned buildings (courts) and property, attend the RI Municipal Police Academy. They don't do much, but at least they have the same training incase something happens. MA should do the same.
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  10. samadam78

    samadam78 MassCops Member

    Has something changed in RI? Last i knew capitol police attened their own academy and were not POST certified officers. Similar to RI sheriffs
  11. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    Kilvinsky says; "I agree with that."

    Will you two PAHLEEZE stop making sense!?!? Now just quit it!
  12. felony

    felony MassCops Member

    They are now POST certified. Providence Academy is now POST and RISP is now POST.
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  13. JD02124

    JD02124 Supporting Member

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