They did it in CT. County Jails are run by DOC. It works fine.Even though the mission is the same (to protect the public) the methods are totally different. Thats like saying that all City and Town police could be absorbed by the State Police. Believe it or not, not all the Sheriff's are looking to intrude into Police work, they have some resources that Police need (information, Technology, housing) if you need it fine, if you don't, thats fine too. The differences are the amount of time that inmates are serving. Im not saying who is better (Sheriff's vs. DOC) just different. The Patrolman who works in say Plympton and the Patrolman who works in Brockton are the same job, but yet totally different. I dont know if this helps or not. forgive me for the rant. :sb:
The SD's were merged with the DOC. Now DOC Personnel staff all county jails. There are NO LE/Correction Deputies in CT. If you work for CT DOC you could be stationed at say, New Haven CC (County Jail) or Northern Correctional (Supermax Prison).Conn. now has Marshals instead of deputies. So what has changed besides the name?
Getting rid of county government is an excellent idea, but if we left the Sheriffs as a figurehead, what exactly would they do without Sheriff's Departments? They'd just be more politically connected hacks, only with zero responsibilities. Like we have a shortage of those right now.thumper2168 said:Wouldn't have to change a thing just leave the Sheriff as the figure head or get rid of County Govt.
It happened with the MSP. People got screwed, but it happened anyway.GateKeeper said:Seniority, time in for shifts / days off, (State / County CO's) would be the driving edge that will never let this happen.
We in the DOC will never let it happen being in fear of our seniority dates. Those in the County will never let it happen being in fear of losing their seniority dates.
Thank God I got to keep my mustache!SinePari said:It happened with the MSP. People got screwed, but it happened anyway.
Not to mention it would probably increase professionalism in the rural areas like Franklin Co. Some of those little depts are quite...."unique?......:jestera: But don't tell the Chiefs that!:sh:DODK911 said:If your talking about saving money, you could also go the other way and say get rid of town Police Dept's and merge them with the Sheriffs Dept. like down south and leave the big cities like Boston, Worcester, and Springfield; this way you could get rid of 325 or so Police Chiefs at salories of $85'000-$150'000 look at all the money the state would save then. Just a thaught if the idea is to save money.
WHOA!!!!!DODK911 said:If your talking about saving money, you could also go the other way and say get rid of town Police Dept's and merge them with the Sheriffs Dept. like down south and leave the big cities like Boston, Worcester, and Springfield; this way you could get rid of 325 or so Police Chiefs at salories of $85'000-$150'000 look at all the money the state would save then. Just a thaught if the idea is to save money.
Cities and towns will never give up their authority to appoint their own police officers. MGL 41-99C allows the establishment of regional police districts, which would make perfect sense for small PD's out west, but no one has taken advantage of it yet.DODK911 said:If your talking about saving money, you could also go the other way and say get rid of town Police Dept's and merge them with the Sheriffs Dept. like down south and leave the big cities like Boston, Worcester, and Springfield; this way you could get rid of 325 or so Police Chiefs at salories of $85'000-$150'000 look at all the money the state would save then. Just a thaught if the idea is to save money.
Excellent points my well-paid municipal brother-in-armsDelta784 said:Cities and towns will never give up their authority to appoint their own police officers. MGL 41-99C allows the establishment of regional police districts, which would make perfect sense for small PD's out west, but no one has taken advantage of it yet.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/41-99c.htm