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medical transport by police

Discussion in 'Civil Law' started by MPD119, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. MPD119

    MPD119 MassCops Member

    Any laws that says police can not do medical transport in Massachusetts?
  2. RodneyFarva

    RodneyFarva Get off my lawn!

    We'll look but I think if you can articulate the exigency of the circumstances you should have no problems.
  3. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    Or work for a university in which case police WILL do medical transports unless it's serious. Mumps is not considered serious by some administrations.
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  4. MPD119

    MPD119 MassCops Member

    I was told that by law, municipal police in massachusetts can not transport sick and injured people.
  5. RodneyFarva

    RodneyFarva Get off my lawn!

    Yeah but tell that to the parents of a kid you just pulled out of a pool, and you are waiting for your "on call ambulance crew" to sign on while your partner is trying to breathe life back into him.

    Now could it also be a violation of your department protocol and procedure, maybe.

    Chapter 111C
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  6. RodneyFarva

    RodneyFarva Get off my lawn!

    I did find this old sop from Boston police.
    "Sec. 1 GENERAL CONSIDERATIONS: Traditionally police officers have been expected to have more than ordinary knowledge about first-aid and the care and treatment of the injured. In order to prepare members of this force to cope with the many demands for their assistance this department has maintained instructional courses so that all sworn personnel would be able to assist the sick and injured. However, it must be remembered by all department personnel that according to medical authorities, and in compliance with Massachusetts General Law Chapter 111-C, police are required to, and will better aid the victim, by waiting for an ambulance. It is understood that tremendous pressure will be placed on officers by family and people at the scene to immediately transport the victim to the hospital. Therefore, the procedures prescribed by this rule shall be strictly complied with"

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  7. Treehouse413

    Treehouse413 MassCops Member

    Well let them sue me, that’s why I pay $250 a year to MPA legal defense . Best insurance policy going .
  8. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    It truly is a good investment. I'm just grateful to have a HELL of Union lawyer in my corner. But honestly, even with a great lawyer, MPA Defense fund is a good thing to invest in.
  9. j809

    j809 Subscribing Member

    It’s not that great. Ask the two guys from Massasoit where it became too expensive and they were dropped. They only spend little time and money on you, after that you’re on your Own. Read the fine print

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  10. 02136colonel

    02136colonel Supporting Member

    No law against it. Mattapoisett PD runs the town ambulance, the State Police have an ambulance and Hamilton PD used to run an ambulance. All staffed at least in part by Cops. As far as transporting in a cruiser, you’ve got to weigh the drawbacks of the cruiser (less patient care space and equipment and less manpower than an ambulance) against the time it will take for an ambulance to arrive. I know Boston PD strongly discourages using cruisers for medical transports, but it’s been done in life-threatening emergencies. I know the D4 wagon crew transported a critical GSW to BMC once.
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  11. USAF3424

    USAF3424 MassCops Member

    Poor guy. The D4 wagon is quite possibly the filthiest department vehicle in the city.
  12. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    To preface this post, I have ALWAYS LOVED Department websites that have a section with a history of the department, especially if there are pictures. It's so nice to see where departments come from and where they are now and where they might be going.

    I say that because several years ago, my hometown PD (where my Dad worked for about 40 years) once had a magnificent history section and in one picture from, shit, maybe the late 70s, it showed the entire fleet of marked cars with many of the cops standing by. The cruisers were Cruiser/Ambulances and the fleet was probably the only RAINBOW FLEET in the nation (for reasons that should be obvious....unless you take into consideration the current use of the "RAINBOW", then it becomes complicated).

    My town had cruiser/ambulances or as some call them, ambulettes for many years. My current job had them for several years as well. It was not uncommon way back when. Then, the Lawyers came.

    My town PD also DID run the actual ambulance for several years but as far as I'm concerned (MHO) cops have enough to keep up on. Ambulance service should either be left strictly to EMS professionals as a separate entity or within the Fire Department (AS SEEN ON TV!).

    But don't kid yourselves gang, Police have been transporting the sick and injured for CENTURIES and at least where I work, will ALWAYS do it if an ambulance isn't 'required'.

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  13. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    Oh my FAWKING GAWD!!!!! Yimmy!
    You just re-animated and sparked my PTSD from that terrible incident! Two lives ruined after both AFSCME and MPA failed MISERABLY to stay the course.
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  14. USM C-2

    USM C-2 MassCops Member

    Hah! I know of one South Shore town with a different colored patrol car for each patrol sector. Always thought it looked odd.
  15. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    So did they switch sectors just to throw off the Sgt? Wait. The Red car is supposed to be...waaaa?
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  16. Goose

    Goose The list is long but distinguished. Staff Member

    When they call a code brown, do all the colors of the rainbow respond?
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  17. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    I would bet you're thinking of my home town! Theory was, the citizenry could call the station and say, "The Green Police Car was on my street. Why was that car there?" and the department could say, "Hmmm, that street is covered by the YELLOW police car. Why WAS the GREEN ONE THERE?" "The Red car cut me off!" "We know who was driving the RED car and we'll deal with it."

    And so forth. I got to drive a couple and always felt funny. Especially the RED car since I felt like a firefighter, which I never wanted to be. Too much ladder climbing! :rolleyes:
  18. USM C-2

    USM C-2 MassCops Member

    If your hometown was just west of Carver, then you're right!
  19. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    Nope, farther north. I'm shocked my town wasn't the only one to do that.
  20. USM C-2

    USM C-2 MassCops Member

    How about a town where the sectors spelled out the name of the town?
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  21. Kilvinsky

    Kilvinsky I think, therefore I'll never be promoted.

    That could be a total bitch in anytown where there are double letters or where letters are in the name more than two times, GrEEnfiEld for example. FrEEtown? "Sector "E" come in." "Which ONE control? The left or the right one?" Avon, that could work.
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  22. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    At least you don’t live in Twix Twnshp...
  23. USM C-2

    USM C-2 MassCops Member

    If I recall correctly, it was "R" and "R2." So, yeah....
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