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Don't feel to bad tomahawk. I went to the police station and passed in all my paper work in for my LTC class A. This fat lady at the desk tells me to have the letters redone on a business letter head.
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Now to me what's the damn difference, a letter of recommendation is a letter of recommendation. If both letters state that the person is qualified to obtain an LTC then it shouldn't matter.
Tackle,
I plan on buying my own gun, so I will not be using one from my dept. So I do not want to leave the gun at the station. I thought that it is legal to carry under the badge, and having the gun at home is within the scope of employment.
I plan on buying my own gun, so I will not be using one from my dept. So I do not want to leave the gun at the station. I thought that it is legal to carry under the badge, and having the gun at home is within the scope of employment.
bumc125
Actually if your firearm is in a safe at your place of residence, it's not illegal. you do not need a LTC to have a firearm in your home. Your OK as long as you don't take it out of your house. Same thing go's for purchasing a firearm, if you can find a dealer willing to do so, you can have it delivered to your residence w/o a LTC.
Actually if your firearm is in a safe at your place of residence, it's not illegal. you do not need a LTC to have a firearm in your home. Your OK as long as you don't take it out of your house. Same thing go's for purchasing a firearm, if you can find a dealer willing to do so, you can have it delivered to your residence w/o a LTC.
Last time I checked, you must have a LTC to have a handgun in your home. To purchase one, you must have a LTC, or you used to be able to have an FID and a "permit to purchase." Im not sure if that still stands. But I am pretty sure that you still need to have a LTC in mass to keep a handgun in your home. The fact that it is locked in a safe is completely separate from the LTC requirement. The firearm must be locked in a secure depository within your home or must have a trigger lock to prevent unauthorized access. again, I am not positive, but thats the way I understand it...anyone else hear anything different??
BUMC125,
by the way, I had the same experience with my LTC renewal. I submitted all the paperwork...and was told to check back in 4-6 weeks. 6 Weeks later, I called and was told, oh, our clerk broke her arm, so it will be delayed another 2 weeks. Finally after 8 weeks, it was ready. Dont stress, they all take their sweet time...as far as my previous post, I am pretty sure that the LTC requirement has been satisfied by you to keep your gun in your home. You were in possession of a current LTC, and submitted your renewal, it has taken longer than expected, not your fault. I wouldnt sweat it.
by the way, I had the same experience with my LTC renewal. I submitted all the paperwork...and was told to check back in 4-6 weeks. 6 Weeks later, I called and was told, oh, our clerk broke her arm, so it will be delayed another 2 weeks. Finally after 8 weeks, it was ready. Dont stress, they all take their sweet time...as far as my previous post, I am pretty sure that the LTC requirement has been satisfied by you to keep your gun in your home. You were in possession of a current LTC, and submitted your renewal, it has taken longer than expected, not your fault. I wouldnt sweat it.
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·I maybe mistaken but from what from the way I understand MGL on firearms you can own/posess a handgun in your home with an FID card. However you can purchase a handgun if you hold a current FID and are given a permit to purchase (thats the way I understand the law). But obviously to carry it you need an LTC.
Also I beleive you only need the permit to purchase if your buying from a licensed dealer, if it's a private sale you dont nee the permit to purchase, but must register the weapon with the local pd.I'm not 100% sure on that one but my first statement I'm 99% sure of.
I'm with Hunter on his first statement - the second sounds kind of shady to me.
Also, a couple of interesting things from chap 140:
sec 131 (e) says: "The licensing authority shall, within 40 days from the date of application, either approve the application and issue the license or deny the application and notify the applicant of the reason for such denial in writing; provided, however, that no such license shall be issued unless the colonel has certified, in writing, that the information available to him does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law."
also,
131 (l) says: "The executive director of the criminal history systems board shall send by first class mail to the holder of each such license to carry firearms, a notice of the expiration of such license not less than 90 days prior to such expiration and shall enclose therein a form for the renewal of such license"
Section 129C. No person, other than a licensed dealer or one who has been issued a license to carry a pistol or revolver or an exempt person as hereinafter described, shall own or possess any firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition unless he has been issued a firearm identification card by the licensing authority pursuant to the provisions of section one hundred and twenty-nine B.
No person shall sell, give away, loan or otherwise transfer a rifle or shotgun or ammunition other than (a) by operation of law, or (b) to an exempt person as hereinafter described, or (c) to a licensed dealer, or (d) to a person who displays his firearm identification card, or license to carry a pistol or revolver.
Also, a couple of interesting things from chap 140:
sec 131 (e) says: "The licensing authority shall, within 40 days from the date of application, either approve the application and issue the license or deny the application and notify the applicant of the reason for such denial in writing; provided, however, that no such license shall be issued unless the colonel has certified, in writing, that the information available to him does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law."
also,
131 (l) says: "The executive director of the criminal history systems board shall send by first class mail to the holder of each such license to carry firearms, a notice of the expiration of such license not less than 90 days prior to such expiration and shall enclose therein a form for the renewal of such license"
Section 129C. No person, other than a licensed dealer or one who has been issued a license to carry a pistol or revolver or an exempt person as hereinafter described, shall own or possess any firearm, rifle, shotgun or ammunition unless he has been issued a firearm identification card by the licensing authority pursuant to the provisions of section one hundred and twenty-nine B.
No person shall sell, give away, loan or otherwise transfer a rifle or shotgun or ammunition other than (a) by operation of law, or (b) to an exempt person as hereinafter described, or (c) to a licensed dealer, or (d) to a person who displays his firearm identification card, or license to carry a pistol or revolver.
MCDM
Im not sure about the FID requirement to keep a firearin your home. The laws have changed over the last couple of years. However, I think you do need a permit to purchase, if you do not have a LTC, I'm almost pretty sure you have to be 21.
You seem to be pretty determined on obtaining this firearm. Without getting into your personnal business, if your thinking of having a friend or family member getting a firearm for you, forget it. It's not worth the jeopardy you put them and yourself into. If that firearm is stolen or is someway misused, the person who bought it and registered it, can be held accountable for it. I don't think thats something you would want to put on someone.
If I were you i would take some of the advise that other people have already posted. Let the P.D. you are going to work for handle it. Plus you will be 21 before you know it.
Im not sure about the FID requirement to keep a firearin your home. The laws have changed over the last couple of years. However, I think you do need a permit to purchase, if you do not have a LTC, I'm almost pretty sure you have to be 21.
You seem to be pretty determined on obtaining this firearm. Without getting into your personnal business, if your thinking of having a friend or family member getting a firearm for you, forget it. It's not worth the jeopardy you put them and yourself into. If that firearm is stolen or is someway misused, the person who bought it and registered it, can be held accountable for it. I don't think thats something you would want to put on someone.
If I were you i would take some of the advise that other people have already posted. Let the P.D. you are going to work for handle it. Plus you will be 21 before you know it.
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God save us all.
Don't have anybody else buy you a handgun!!! You will make them a "straw purchaser" in violation of Federal Law. Check out ATF Form 4473. Why? You can't legally purchase one for yourself. Therefore they can't legally transfer one to you on an FA-10 State form!
You cannot have a Handgun at home unless you have an LTC OR an FID w/permit to purchase! Why?
Because you can't legally walk into Fred's Fine Firearms and buy one yourself.(yet)
Unless your chief specifies by either existing policy, or a letter authorizing you to possess an off-duty weapon, DON'T!
Carrying on the badge is great. If you're not wearing one on duty, under 21, and have no LTC DONT!
Don't have anybody else buy you a handgun!!! You will make them a "straw purchaser" in violation of Federal Law. Check out ATF Form 4473. Why? You can't legally purchase one for yourself. Therefore they can't legally transfer one to you on an FA-10 State form!
You cannot have a Handgun at home unless you have an LTC OR an FID w/permit to purchase! Why?
Because you can't legally walk into Fred's Fine Firearms and buy one yourself.(yet)
Unless your chief specifies by either existing policy, or a letter authorizing you to possess an off-duty weapon, DON'T!
Carrying on the badge is great. If you're not wearing one on duty, under 21, and have no LTC DONT!
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·I believe thats incorrect Joe, I'm 99.9% sure that if you hold a valid FID and obtain a permit to purchase for a handgun and are the home owner (where the handgun will be kept)you can legally purchase a handgun and posses it in your home.
I wouldnt be walking around doing yard work with it on my hip looking like Wyatt Erp
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Hey look what I found:
*if you possessed an FID card TOGETHER with a handgun which you obtained with a permit to purchase PRIOR to October 21, 1998, your FID card allows you to validly possess this handgun in your residence or place of business
www.state.ma.us/eops
I take this to mean that Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998 did away with the "permit to purchase" provison. It doesn't exist anymore. So it looks like Joe is right. The only way to lawfully possess a handgun in your home is to have a Class "B" LTC. (unless you had FID/Permit t/purchase/handgun prior to October 21, 1998)
This holds true for your large capacity rifles and shotguns also. You could legally own them after October 21, 1998 on your FID until it expired, then you must apply for a Class "B" LTC to keep your AR-15's & 9 shot Remington 870's
*if you possessed an FID card TOGETHER with a handgun which you obtained with a permit to purchase PRIOR to October 21, 1998, your FID card allows you to validly possess this handgun in your residence or place of business
www.state.ma.us/eops
I take this to mean that Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998 did away with the "permit to purchase" provison. It doesn't exist anymore. So it looks like Joe is right. The only way to lawfully possess a handgun in your home is to have a Class "B" LTC. (unless you had FID/Permit t/purchase/handgun prior to October 21, 1998)
This holds true for your large capacity rifles and shotguns also. You could legally own them after October 21, 1998 on your FID until it expired, then you must apply for a Class "B" LTC to keep your AR-15's & 9 shot Remington 870's
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·OK I stand corrected,my bad. I thought it was the opposite, sorry JOE.
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Thanks for ending the speculation MPD61
Tomahawk... You think waiting for your LTC was bad, how about your own Department issuing an LTC with the wrong information on it. I think you know me pretty well, but did you know I was a blond-haired, 5'8", "unemployed driver?"
I ended up tossing in the towel. The name and DOB are correct. That's all I needed.
I ended up tossing in the towel. The name and DOB are correct. That's all I needed.
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