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When stopping a person for an expired inspection sticker and you find that the person driving is not the registered owner, who do you issue the ticket to?:whistle:
 
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i always cite the owner unless u know that the operator is the really the "owner" and its registered in someone elses name (eg. parents). to cite an operator who borrows a car with an expired sticker is a little too much, unless their are mittigating circumstances (db,ng).
 

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Cite the owner, and the operator is the agent of the owner, much like allowing unlicensed operation, 90-12.
 

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It depends. Is the operator the "common operator" of the vehicle? (i.e. is registered to mom or dad?) If the operator states they usually drive it, -cha-ching! to the Operator. If not to the owner, but if the operator is a dick-wad, I'll issue to both in either case.
 

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Just cite the owner, the operator will just walk into the hearing proclaiming they knew nothing about it. In our court that always works so we no longer bother with the operator.
 

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I understand it is more effective to cite the owner,however isn't it true that the operator of the vehicle is responsible for anything inside the vehicle and to be sure that the vehicle is safe for operation.....Just raising an idea, i normally cite the owner.
 

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I understand it is more effective to cite the owner,however isn't it true that the operator of the vehicle is responsible for anything inside the vehicle and to be sure that the vehicle is safe for operation.....Just raising an idea, i normally cite the owner.
Glad that I never ran into you when I was in Lubbock, TX!

I was on a business trip down there with all arrangements/expenses taken care of by a very large company.

On my last day in TX, I noticed that the registration tags on the rental car (Hertz or Avis) expired THAT DAY! Problem was I was many miles from their office and had to leave for the airport ~5AM the NEXT day (after the reg expired). Luckily I drove very carefully and nothing happened . . . But do you really think that "I" should be held responsible for Hertz/Avis not putting the new registration on the car?
 

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If the Operator (non-owner) tells me why the vehicle is not inspected or why it failed and they make statements like "I haven't had time" then it goes to the operator. If they make any statements that basically tells me that they are the primary operator of the vehicle then it goes to the operator. I'll note the statements in the narrative that we do for each cite.
 
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I always cite the owner. If the owner wants there name on the registration, then they must be held responsible. Why I do do it this? If it is some scam, then make them pay. If it belongs to the kids parents, well, the parents should take more interest in what the kids are driving. Or the operator is just a scum w/ a million violations (crim & civil), then gig on the owner for helping this guy out.
 

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tomcats said:
:fun: :DB: Lens.....being in Lubbock is punisnment enough..i would of let you go
Thanks! :lol:

I see that you've been there!

It certainly was a very strange place, especially since I was there twice and once was just before Christmas. Dry city (of 100K back then) except private clubs, strictly Southern Baptist with no outward signs of Christmas anywhere. Biggest "tourist attraction" was the groundhog park! :A!:
 
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EITHER OR............. EACH OPERATOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VEHICLE EQUIP REGARDLESS WHO OWNS IT. IF ISN'T UP TO SNUFF TOUGH I ALWAYS SAY.
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When stopping a person for an expired inspection sticker and you find that the person driving is not the registered owner, who do you issue the ticket to?:whistle:
 
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