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Illegals tell of hardship

Discussion in 'Illegal Immigration Issues' started by frapmpd24, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. frapmpd24

    frapmpd24 Senior Member

    Illegals tell of hardship


    By Paula J. Owen CORRESPONDENT

    FITCHBURG — Illegal immigrants told a government task force yesterday of the difficulties they face in day-to-day life in Massachusetts.

    Seven panelists, using translators, told the Governor’s Advisory Council on Immigrants and Refugees last night at Fitchburg High School of the problems their undocumented status causes them in education, public transportation, the workplace, health care, housing and transportation.

    Fitchburg panelist Oscar Zapata from Uruguay has lived in the United States 20 years.

    “As immigrants, many times we don’t have secure work,” he said. “We work through temp agencies that abuse us and don’t pay us minimum wage and don’t have benefits. We can’t complain about it or we get treated badly in the companies that we work at.”

    He said labor laws are not enforced for illegal immigrants.

    “We get threatened to lose our jobs if we try to confront these issues,” he said. “There is discrimination against people who do not speak English in the workplace. Because some of us do not have proper identification, we can’t go to banks to cash our checks and have to go to places that charge us 10 percent of our earnings.”

    Mr. Zapata said the state needs to respect workers and not make undocumented immigration status an obstacle. Passports, he said, should be sufficient to open a bank account and for cashing payroll checks.

    Most of the panelists cited illegal immigrants’ inability to obtain driver’s licenses and the lack of adequate public transportation as major obstacles.

    Miguel Marino, also a native of Uruguay, said he thinks illegal immigrants should be allowed to get driver’s licenses. Most immigrants, he said, are on the roads to get to work, but live in fear of getting stopped by police.

    “Some of us can’t even insure our cars, which is a law,” he said. “Many times police detain or stop us because we don’t have licenses, not because of a traffic violation. People drive with fear, but have to do it out of necessity. Not all police officers know how to treat immigrants with respect or treat them as a person.”

    Panelist Teresita Bueno said illegal immigrants cannot get health care in Massachusetts since they lack a Social Security number or proper identification. Many receive inadequate health care, and wrong or incomplete diagnoses result from this, she said. Additionally, translators are not always available.

    “This type of treatment is mostly seen in the emergency room when translation is needed,” she said. “Many times doctors or employees make decisions for patients without consulting them.”

    Alicia Alvez from Paraguay has lived in the United States 20 years. She said she represented many people in the audience. She said illegal immigrants are not part of civic life and are not informed about what is happening in government.

    “What this means to us is that the state does not value us,” she said.

    She added that a problem hurting many undocumented parents is that when their children graduate from high school they cannot drive, work or go to college because of their status.


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    Well this is a gem of an article from the T&G. As if the rag is not socialist and liberal enough, they print this piece of garbage article? Maybe someone from ICE should pay these illegals a visit, seeing they are so willing to shove it in everyone's face in the newspaper they have been criminals for 20 years and have the audacity to complain in a public forum.
  2. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed MassCops Angel Staff Member

    F them deport them all
  3. Johnny Law

    Johnny Law Nemo me impune lacessit Staff Member

    What the fuck about the word "Illegal" is so hard to understand? This is why they are treated the way they are whining about, BECAUSE YOU DON'T FUCKING BELONG HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  4. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    Try obeying ALL our laws, including immigration you douche.
  5. fra444

    fra444 MassCops Member

    LMFAO! I read this post when it was first put up. I have been sitting back waiting for these responses!
  6. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    I have my SPR zeroed. Tell them there is a stack of drivers licenses in my mud room.

    DeMoura is a coward.
  7. frapmpd24

    frapmpd24 Senior Member

    I don't think the Telegram reported did enough of a job of translating Alicia's comments and reporting them accurately...

    Correction: "Alicia Alvez, a criminal alien from Paraguay, has lived in the United States 20 years."

    Translation: "I stand up with and speak for my fellow criminals"

    Correction: She said illegal immigrants are not part of civic life and are not informed about what is happening in government, because as people who are here illegally, they don't have the right or expectation to either. They have as much of a right to being part of civic life and being informed about what is happening in government as Americans do in their (real) country.

    Its is about time for the T&G to go the way of the Seattle Post-Intellegencer...out of print and hopefully out of business...
  8. jettsixx

    jettsixx Had enough

    :musicboo::musicboo::musicboo::musicboo::musicboo: Last time I checked driving without a license was a violation of the law. I guess they are so used to getting away with breaking one law they seem to believe they dont have to follow any of them. I am really getting tire of this BS. I think the time is coming that the American people are going to "take back" their country one way or another, and I dont think it is going to be pretty.
  9. cj3441

    cj3441 MassCops Member

    my response to Illegal immigrants.... "boo f**king hoo" go back to the sh*thole you came from cutting sugar cane for 10 cents a day.
  10. OCKS

    OCKS Guest

    I'm mad as hell ans I can't take it any more. I'm losing my mind when I read s**t like this.
  11. justanotherparatrooper

    justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :) Staff Member

    They TOLD A GOVT PAnel!.....Well holy shit, how come they werent carted off like they shouldve been?
  12. Redleg13D

    Redleg13D MassCops Member

    Hmmm... this would be sort of like breaking into someone's house, and being surprised they aren't cooking you dinner!
  13. cj3441

    cj3441 MassCops Member

    Better than that why don't they pack the subaru and bring them back to their house, they can feed them and give them clothes and money, and get rid of all of that white middle/upper class guilt in the process.
  14. cj3441

    cj3441 MassCops Member

    works for me.
  15. rg1283

    rg1283 MassCops Member

    This article did it for me. The Telegram is in the toilet and its about to be flushed.

    That said unless .gov comes down hard on under the table illegal alien employers. Any attempt to get the illegals on the tax roles will prove futile since most work under the table anyway.

    That being said get out!
  16. CJIS

    CJIS MassCops Member

    I think I hear the Whaaaabulance
  17. 8MORE

    8MORE MassCops Angel

    Last time I was near the southern border I did not see a one way gate coming into the USA. If the criminaliens think there lives here are so bad, Cross back over the border to whatever cesspool you were born in and decided to run from, And stay there!
  18. 94c

    94c Subscribing Member

    Don't forget that the Federal Census is right around the corner.

    Cities and towns are going to be tripping over themselves to help these people and get them counted.

    Larger populations mean larger Federal dollars.
  19. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    If they had committed any other crime, this would have been the perfect set up for a sting operation.

  20. 94c

    94c Subscribing Member

    Today's illegals will put tomorrow's cops back on the street.
    More arrests will mean more court time.

    Wake up guys, it the police stimulus package in drag.
  21. jettsixx

    jettsixx Had enough

    94C I dont think we will be allowed to arrest them. After all someone has to re elect obamassiah
  22. Ajax UOG

    Ajax UOG New Member

    I'll stay in my country, why don't you stay the f*ck in yours?
  23. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    I disagree....the population of my city has been underreported for years, because the larger the official population, the more teachers, police officers, and firefighters you have to hire.
  24. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    True, but either way, these services are being overutilized by people who don't pay for them.

    While I would certainly not want them counted for the further legitimacy it would give them, you gotta admit the money would be a plus. Anyways, I would think teachers would be the only mandatory expendature (under No Child Left Behind if I'm not mistaken). Also correct me on this if I'm wrong, but police and fire would only be mandated to raise their #'s if they wanted to maintain an accrediation standard. My department has been well below (about 20-25 guys) the FBI's suggestion of ~2.4 cops/1,000 residents for decades.
  25. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    Our city ordinances state we're supposed to have 188 patrol officers, but it's fluctuated anywhere from 141 to 167 during my time on the job. My point was that most municipalities feel compelled to increase police and fire coverage as the population increases.

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