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Rift Over Recruiting at Public High Schools
Seattle School Votes to Bar Military, Touching Off Debate over War, Free Speech

By Dean Paton, The Christian Science Monitor

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The No Child Left Behind Act requires schools that receive federal funding to make students accessible to military recruiters.

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SEATTLE (May 18) - While most Parent Teacher Student Association meetings might center on finding funding for better math books or the best way to chaperon a school dance, a recent meeting here at Garfield High School grappled with something much larger - the war in Iraq.

The school is perhaps one of the first in the nation to debate and vote against military recruiting on high school campuses - a topic already simmering at the college level. In fact, the Supreme Court recently agreed to decide whether the federal government can withhold funds from colleges that bar military recruiters.

High schools are struggling with a similar issue as the No Child Left Behind Act requires that schools receiving federal funding must release the names of its students to recruiters. Some feel that's an invasion of privacy prompted by a war effort that has largely divided the American public. Others say barring recruiters is an infringement of free speech - and a snub to the military, particularly in a time of war.

Garfield High School took a decisive step last week with a vote of 25 to 5 to adopt a resolution that says "public schools are not a place for military recruiters."

All this comes as recruiters struggle to meet enlistment goals.

Although PTA chapters are supposed to be "nonsectarian and nonpartisan, which means nonpolitical," according to Jenny Sopko, a spokeswoman for the national PTA in Chicago, Garfield's PTSA cochair maintains that its action is "wholly consistent with our mission."

"The mission of the PTA is to protect and defend kids," says Amy Hagopian, a mother of three whose son is a Garfield senior. "It's not just limited to education issues - which explains why the PTA takes positions on kids' health, violence, and other serious issues."

Garfield, with 1,600 students, is one of Seattle's top high schools, routinely producing bumper crops of National Merit Scholars, plus internationally acclaimed student orchestras and jazz bands. It's also racially diverse, with African-American students making up 31 percent of its student population.

Like so many schools today, Garfield grapples with painful budget cuts, loss of teachers, and dwindling resources. The school's opposition to military recruitment seems, in part, a result of parents' growing realization that tax money spent for the Iraq war is money not spent on children's educations or other domestic needs.

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"They're spending $4 billion a month in Iraq, but we have to cut our race relations class, which costs $12,500," Ms. Hagopian pointed out. "That's an important class for our kids."

During discussion at the PTSA's meeting last week, Ted Inkley argued against the resolution because he thought it dangerous to deny free speech to organizations simply because their philosophies or intentions disagreed with the PTSA.

Mr. Inkley, an attorney whose daughter is a senior, told the crowded library he could "easily" see a resolution by some other PTA that banned Planned Parenthood representatives from campus because of their views on contraception and abortion.

Steve Ludwig, whose son is a senior and whose daughter will enter as a freshman next fall, made a point shared by many in attendance: Garfield does not allow organizations that promote illegal activities to recruit students to perform those activities, nor does it allow organizations that discriminate on the basis of race, gender, national origin, or sexual orientation to recruit on campus.

"Planned Parenthood, as far as I know, does not advocate or perform illegal acts. The US military does," Mr. Ludwig continued. The soft-spoken carpenter said he would not object if Army representatives came to Garfield to debate their ideas on torture or aggressive war. "What I object to is their coming here to recruit students to perform those acts," he said. "It's not about free speech."

Nationally, there's a growing sense that recruiters desperate to bolster falling enlistment numbers are misrepresenting sign-up agreements to entice recruits. In response to 480 allegations of improprieties by recruiters since Oct. 1, the Army announced it will suspend its recruiting for one day on May 20, so commanders can remind its 7,500 recruiters of proper conduct.

Douglas Smith, a US Army spokesman, said the job of recruiters is not to make promises but to show applicants possibilities and career options.

"As for a recruiter making promises and not following through, the recruiter's not in any position to promise anything. We hope that all our recruiters are communicating honestly with our applicants," Mr. Smith said. But he added, "In the contract [between the new soldier and the Army] it says, 'Anything the recruiter may have promised me is moot.' "

Smith also pointed out the legality of military recruitment activity on campuses. "The No Child Left Behind Act requires schools to let us have access to these students," he says.

Indeed, the resolution by Garfield's PTSA is more symbol than policy, for Seattle, like virtually all school districts, requires high schools to give recruiters access to students - or risk losing federal funding under Section 9528 of the act. School districts also are required to notify parents and students that they may "opt out" by signing a letter preventing recruiters from getting their names.

In response to Garfield's resolution, Seattle's district issued a statement reinforcing its policy of allowing recruiters to work on high school campuses, but also said it would increase efforts next fall to make it easier for parents and students to opt out.

"Nothing in this resolution prevents students desirous of joining the military from doing so," said Sasha Riser-Kositsky, a Garfield sophomore from a written statement during last week's meeting. "Indeed, there is a recruiting center within a five-minute walking distance of Garfield."

05-18-05 11:44 EDT

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I can't believe the direction this country is going.

Do they realize they are breeding a bunch of liberal loving, bible hating,
promiscuous, gay, disrespectful, seditious wimps? {Did I leave anything out?}.
I thought the Woodstock years were bad....

I look forward to the day I can kick back in Fla, but at the same time I worry about what this country is going to be like, and who will be running it.
 

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The story is presumptuous!

At a Braintree R&P club meeting some 2 months or so ago, there were two military recruiters present. I spoke with them after the meeting (they and some fellow soldiers are interested in joining the club) and they told me that Sharon Public Schools PROHIBITS them from showing their faces on school property and that was NOT just a recent decision.

I'm not at all surprised, especially with the elitist attitude shown by many Sharon residents! It's also a status thing that all their grads MUST go to college so very few would sign up for active duty anyway (the National Guard would be another story).

The recruiters also mentioned some other towns that prohibit their going near the schools.

I'd love to see state and fed funding pulled from towns that don't allow military recruiters on campus! :twisted:
 

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That's absolute bullshit!! First they attack the Pledge now this! W.T.F. is this country coming to? Screw those teachers! Who the F*@k are they to criticize the military. I have respect for the job the teachers do, but this is total B.S. I hope they lose funding, for once, I would like to see a teacher take a pay cut then see a cop of firefighter get laid off. Communist bastards.
 

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Correction: It is the school committee who sets policy, NOT the teachers or administrators!

Although teachers may complain, picket, spew anti-American hatred to students, etc. they aren't the decision makers.

The recruiters I spoke with specifically told me that they school committee forbade them to step foot on school property!
 

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Channy1984";p="65084 said:
Military recruiters leave you alone if you say no. Those who hand out flyers saying "recruiters off campus" dont. ](*,)
Military, maybe..not the Army. The dude wouldn't leave me alone, I finally told him I was a communist..he said he would leave me alone after that.
 

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kttref";p="65100 said:
Military, maybe..not the Army. The dude wouldn't leave me alone, I finally told him I was a communist..he said he would leave me alone after that.
Are you sure he wasn't hitting on you because you were cute?

He might have been trying to fill a different quota? :twisted:
 

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LenS";p="65122 said:
Are you sure he wasn't hitting on you because you were cute?

He might have been trying to fill a different quota? :twisted:
Haha...Trust me, I wasn't cute in high school, I was short (still am), plump and well...you get the picture...Nothing like now! The guy never met me. He said someone signed me up and said I was VERY interested...I wasn't really friends with ANYONE at my high school, all my friends were elsewhere...so someone was just trying to be mean to me :roll:
 

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When I was on recruiting duty for the Marines all we did was set up a table and stood behind it. We didn't need go out and speak to the students, if they were interested, they came to us. If they weren't man or woman enough to come up and talk to us first, screw'em because we dont want'em anyway!!!!!! SEMPER FI!!!!
 

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In my high school they had no problem letting military recruiters in. They would set up their table in the café and they were a lot lees aggressive than the college recruiter. I mean the military guys would wait for you to go up to them and they would talk with you and would also stop if you said no but the college ones would stop you and talk with you while you just trying to eat your lunch and never take no for an answer. But I guess that’s just my experience.
 
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