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Fitchburg Police Chief wants illegals to have driver's licenses

Discussion in 'Illegal Immigration Issues' started by sgthoskins, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    Fitchburg Police Chief wants illegals to have driver's licenses - Sentinel & Enterprise

    DeMoura just made #2 on my list for chicken shit, coward, anti-American, Police Chiefs. :flipoff:

  2. Johnny Law

    Johnny Law Nemo me impune lacessit Staff Member

    This makes me physically ill.
  3. topcop14

    topcop14 Subscribing Member

  4. jettsixx

    jettsixx Had enough

    That is rediculous, I had one of the Fitchburg Lts during the Academy and he was really good with constitutional law. I wonder how he feels about his chief virtually spitting on the constitution?
  5. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    I would imagine he's about as happy as we are about it. :cussing:
  6. rg1283

    rg1283 MassCops Member

    I think Demoura should find a new job!!!!!!!!!

    Most of the illegals are not you great grandfathers type.

    They are like the assholes who live off of their parents when they are 45 because they can (not due to disability)!

    How come I see so many of them who have driver's licenses and go to the community colleges. Gee maybe because they WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS! I don't care if they have asylum or became citizens. They worked.

    The only people who have rights to the welfare system and free crap the country has to offer are the Citizens of this country.

    Call them what you may and I do not condone people who are not obviously disabled living off of the government. However they are Citizens!
  7. Harley387

    Harley387 MassCops Member

    If the system was working the way it should, when an illegal immigrant walks into the registry to obtain a driver's license he would immediately be locked up and deported.
  8. cj3441

    cj3441 MassCops Member

  9. 7costanza

    7costanza Supporting Member

    Its not just us these dirtbags hurt, my fathers wife is from Venezuela and my cousins wife is from the Phillipines, he met her while he was proudly serving his Country in the Marines. Both came here legally and it took them yrs ...I know they both feel very cheated by all the criminals that come here illegally, its unfair to them and gives most immigrants a bad name.
  10. irish937

    irish937 MassCops Member

    I would think the Lt. you had in the academy doesn't have much nice to say about anything the chief does, seen as how he was demoted to sergeant from lieutenant for "cost savings".
  11. kwflatbed

    kwflatbed MassCops Angel Staff Member

    Fitchburg councilor to DeMoura: Do your job

    By Damien Fisher
    Posted: 03/20/2009 08:01:42 AM EDT

    FITCHBURG -- City Councilor at-large Dean Tran is angry with Police Chief Robert DeMoura's proposal to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
    Tran vehemently opposes the move, because he sees it as rewarding illegal behavior.
    "I strongly believe this is an issue of right and wrong," Tran wrote in an e-mail responding to questions Thursday. "We should not condone illegal activities as we do not teach our children to engage in illegal activities."
    DeMoura won a standing ovation Wednesday night at a public hearing sponsored by the Governor's Advisory Committee on Refugees and Immigrants when he said illegal immigrants should be given driver's licenses.
    DeMoura defended his comments Thursday. He said giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants is a good policy.
    "It's a procedural step that makes sense," DeMoura said.
    It would allow police to be able to identify those immigrants during traffic stops or other police encounters, he said.
    And the proposal would also give the state a way to get a fingerprint from the immigrant, he said.
    Most illegal immigrants are people whose temporary work visas have expired, DeMoura said.
    "We opened the doors to them," DeMoura said. "We were all immigrants to this country at one time or another."
    Tran, a naturalized American citizen, took exception to DeMoura expressing his opinion at a public event. "The chief has the right to express his opinions, unfortunately he did so in a public setting and in the capacity (as) the chief of police," Tran wrote.

    Tran wants DeMoura to enforce the law, as is his duty as police chief.
    "His actions should be to uphold the laws and doing anything different will result in a movement for his resignation," Tran wrote.

    DeMoura said he assumed all of the immigrants at the hearing got rides from friends or family who have legal drivers licenses. He did not think it would have been appropriate to stop any of the people coming to or going from the hearing to check their licenses.
    "You're not going to indiscriminately pull people over," DeMoura said.
    Most area officials who spoke to the Sentinel & Enterprise Thursday said they do not support DeMoura's proposal.
    State Rep. Stephen DiNatale, D-Fitchburg, said he won't support the proposal until there is some sort of action on the federal level to clean up the immigration laws.
    "The deeper problem lies with the federal government," DiNatale said. "The federal government needs to address the deficiencies that exist in the immigration system."
    DiNatale is sympathetic to the plight of illegal immigrants, but can't support the proposal.
    "It is still the law, they are still undocumented," DiNatale said.
    Ward 2 City Councilor Norman Boisvert strongly disagrees with DeMoura's stance.
    "I must be stuck in the old school," Boisvert said. "I believe anyone who comes here illegally should not be rewarded with a drivers license."
    Boisvert is not anti-immigrant, he said, but he wants the laws to be obeyed.
    "All are welcome, but do it legally," Boisvert said. "That's why they call it legal alien and illegal alien."
    Boisvert said all other countries enforce their immigration laws, and the United States should too.
    "If you were to sneak down to Mexico as an American and try to set up your lifestyle down there, you wouldn't be allowed to do it," Boisvert said.
    Ward 6 City Councilor Jody Joseph is upset that Patrick has the committee to begin with, saying illegal immigrants should not be receiving any benefits from the state.
    "I don't know how comfortable and easy we should make it for refugees and immigrants to come into the area if they are here illegally," Joseph said. "I don't understand the whole concept."
    But Joseph is not opposed to DeMoura's stance on giving licenses to undocumented immigrants.
    "The chief just wants to be able to identify all of them," he said.
    Ward 4 City Councilor Kevin Starr disagrees with DeMoura's position.
    "A driver's license is a privilege you have to earn," Star said. "It's not a right."
    Starr thinks federal officials should find a way for illegal immigrants to have an opportunity to become legal residents.
    "Immigration needs to help these people go about finding a legal way to stay in this country," he said.
    Tran wants to see the federal government get control of immigration, and find a way to put "hard working illegal immigrants who contribute to society on a path to citizenship."
    And Tran thinks Patrick ought to be doing more for the legal residents of the state before he deals with illegal immigrants. "If Gov. Patrick wants to help the people of the Commonwealth, he should be focusing his energy on creating jobs and lowering taxes," Tran wrote. "His committee is another representation of bigger government and more tax dollars going to waste."

    Fitchburg councilor to DeMoura: Do your job - Sentinel & Enterprise
  12. Goose

    Goose The list is long but distinguished. Staff Member

    My personal preference would be to fingerprint them when they break the law, which is already done.

    If they were able to get licenses, how would they be prevented from giving the registry false information? It's not like they have a passport...
  13. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    I'm glad Dean Tran called the chief on his bullshit idea. Tran is a pretty decent guy from the little contact that I have had with him, although I think he was dead wrong on supporting Fitchburg's bullshit gun buy back program.
  14. Hawk19

    Hawk19 New Member

    Not to mention the hoops we citizens have to go through to get ID, which apparently they won't have to at all.

    Birth certificate? Social Security Card? Proof of Signature? Yeah, if the registry made me come up with 'em, the illegals should have to as well.
  15. Simon

    Simon Guest

    "NEW AMERICANS" ????????? Blow it out yer ass.
  16. sgthoskins

    sgthoskins Teufelhunden

    I think "New Reactive Targets" meeting would have been a more appropriate name.
  17. Johnny Law

    Johnny Law Nemo me impune lacessit Staff Member

    If they don't have a license Chief, we will lock them up for 90-10 and LiveScan their fingerprints to find out who they are. How did this guy become Chief anyway?
  18. rg1283

    rg1283 MassCops Member

  19. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

    Anyone else see how the euphamisms in this sentence parlay the truth? Change "undocumented" to "illegal" and see how absurd the sentence sounds:
    "Undocumented" immigrants cannot LEGALLY work. No way, no how. Bullsh*t.
  20. dcs2244

    dcs2244 Moderator Staff Member

    Doushe-bag. Chief-of-police=not-a-cop (rule of thumb)...:mad:
  21. trueblue

    trueblue MassCops Member

    The temp agencies "abuse" these illegals? How so? Oh I forgot, they get them jobs they have to GO to and work, then go home, then GO back to work again the next day. The "abuse" IS THE WORK. These scumbags want the FREESHIT that all the other illegals get. This proposal by the Chief is so misguided it makes your eyes bleed reading it. The way to end this mess is to continually round up these criminals and send them back to where they came. If they want to come here do so legally. In the meantime, no license=arrest.
  22. BPD110

    BPD110 New Member

    From Lowell like the Mayor
  23. rg1283

    rg1283 MassCops Member

    What a hack.
  24. irish937

    irish937 MassCops Member

    He is in way over his head. He will not make another contract.
  25. Kem25

    Kem25 New Member

    I would lock up every illegal I could find if I was on Fitchburg. This chief must be really popular since he still has his job after such a moronic idea!

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