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Mendacious? I gotta use that one before the end of the day!

Just as soon as I look it up.

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So it is generally acceptable for an officer to use government property to drive recklessly while off duty? And police wonder why there is distrust from the public?
I don't wonder about it at all, because I couldn't give less than a shit what you or the other sheep think of me. You dumb fucks pay me to drive as quickly as I can to a call, as long as it is you who is calling because your call is the most important one of the shift.
 

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Why are these on-duty officers submitting to a traffic stop?
There have been a few incidents of this nature with FHP, which have had different outcomes. I don't know exactly what they teach these folks in Tallahassee but as I said before, their poor reputation has been earned over the years.

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no one noticed she wasn't wearing her hat...
Hats are not commonly worn here in FLA by LEOs. The first city PD I worked for didn't even issue a hat. FHP is the agency which wears them the most often, but it is not that common there either. Most agencies allow black sneakers and shorts to be worn on duty, with a baseball hat. Uniforms are not held in high regards in FLA.
 

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Just saw the whole video and I have to say not the brightest bulb on the Miami force. I will leave it at that on this public forum. This would have solved the problem, to quote Captain O'Hagan: "There was a time when we'd take a guy like you in the back and beat you with a hose. Now you've got your God-damned unions".
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There have been a few incidents of this nature with FHP, which have had different outcomes. I don't know exactly what they teach these folks in Tallahassee but as I said before, their poor reputation has been earned over the years.
If you're going to try to arrest me while I'm on-duty, you (figuartive you, not literal) better be bigger and stronger, and make sure you have more friends in the vicinity than I do.
 

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If you're going to try to arrest me while I'm on-duty, you (figuartive you, not literal) better be bigger and stronger, and make sure you have more friends in the vicinity than I do.
Which is why this type of episode should never have occurred. This trooper appeared as if she was prepared to shoot the Miami Officer, just for speeding; speeding an infraction which is dismissed on a regular basis in courtrooms all around the country for many times no legitimate reason whatsoever. I'm glad the FOP/PBA is involved and maybe this type of coverage may discourage these types of incidents in the future. If I am ever able to make it to a meet and greet up there I'll give you some other stories which will make your head spin.
 

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Watching the video didn't change my mind...but just shows what happens when two idiots with badges cross paths. If she had reason to believe the cruiser was stolen, she should have approached differently. His trying to say he didn't see the lights is complete BS...Id like to see how he reacts to someone who tried to play that with him on a stop.
 
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I think the locals should film their constant bailing out of FHP and put THAT on Youtube! Along with the radio screams for help.
I'd crawl a hundred yards over broken glass to get to any cop in trouble, but that doesn't mean they're aren't some that I would fight in a heartbeat off-duty if I knew there would be no legal or employment repercussions as a result.
 

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Imagine the hilarity if he called in an OT, stating a fake FHP Trooper was pointing a gun at him, and a dozen Miami PD cars came sliding up sideways.
I came to this thread late. I used this quote because years ago one of our guys (who since left for LAPD) was in an argument with a local officer. I don't even recall about what, but petty stuff as was the norm. When our guy got pissed and started to walk around the cruiser so as to have better eye contact and not have to shout, the local officer called in for back up. When his own guys showed up, they basically said, "ARE YOU SHITTING ME??" and left.

I also know it's not uncommon for a college agency to be responding to a call with lights going and hear over the radio some local cop asking, "What's such and such got going?" Sure, often times it's legit concern, but we all know that often times it's also just silly ball busting.

Lastly, who else here recalls (and if it's been mentioned I apologize-I DID skip a few pages) when a Metro Officer (I forget the rank-NOT PTL.) pulled over a Boston Officer (also not a PTL.) for speeding on the Xway and when the Boston Officer drove off in a huff, the Metro officer followed him into the garage at Dist. 1 and then called for back up, again getting a "ARE YOU SHTTING ME?" from his troops.

Silliness happens all over, and it's just pretty sad. If a guy is doing something really stupid, he probably should be called on it, but there are good ways to do this and bad. I believe this FHP trooper did it the WRONG way, or at least went WAY TOO FAR.
 

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Lastly, who else here recalls (and if it's been mentioned I apologize-I DID skip a few pages) when a Metro Officer (I forget the rank-NOT PTL.) pulled over a Boston Officer (also not a PTL.) for speeding on the Xway and when the Boston Officer drove off in a huff, the Metro officer followed him into the garage at Dist. 1 and then called for back up, again getting a "ARE YOU SHTTING ME?" from his troops.
Ooooh! Ooooh! I do! I do! Pick me!

Scorry....

Yup, I heard the MDC copper punched the 'man down' button on his radio due to being outnumbered and made to feel like a jackassclown by BPD who were no doubt wondering, in the immortal words of the late A. Winehouse, "what kind of fuckery is this?"

I remember thinking "an emergency button on the radio, how cool!" Took about 15 more years for us to get them, and then another 5 to get a dispatch console that would receive them.
 

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Kilv,

If you remember your guy's name, can you send it to me; I'm wondering if we know each other.

As for the Metro/Boston PD and the FHP/Miami PD scenarios, sometimes you've got to know when to give it up. Common sense goes a long way on our job. All the formal education in the world is no help when you don't have common sense.
 

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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,,,DUHHHHHHHHHH
COMMON SENSE Reasoning abilities..."It does not compute"!!!!
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I also know it's not uncommon for a college agency to be responding to a call with lights going and hear over the radio some local cop asking, "What's such and such got going?" Sure, often times it's legit concern, but we all know that often times it's also just silly ball busting.
Neither college in my city has a PD, never mind cruisers with blue lights, but if I see MSP or Transit cruisers going blue lights and siren through my area, I'll ask dispatch to see if they need assistance, especially given their manpower shortages and sometimes sketchy radio communication. That's solely to make sure they don't need help.....as mentioned, I automatically assume that a non-stolen police cruiser is being driven in a manner appropriate for the circumstances.

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All the formal education in the world is no help when you don't have common sense.
Some of the best police officers I ever worked with never even graduated high school, while I've had some Harvard Ph.D. professors who I wouldn't trust with sharp scissors.
 

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Looking more and more like a personal vendetta
FHP supervisor told trooper to 'back off' chase of Miami cop - 11/04/2011 | MiamiHerald.com
FHP supervisor told trooper to 'back off' chase of Miami copBy Diana Moskovitz
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A Florida Highway Patrol supervisor can be heard on tape telling dispatchers to have state trooper Donna Watts "back off" as she followed a speeding Miami police officer on Florida's Turnpike in Hollywood.
"He's well over 120 and he's not stopping for me,'' Watts is heard saying on a recording released Thursday of communication between FHP and Watts, before she pulled over the officer with her gun drawn. The 11-minute recording was released in response to requests from the media.
The Oct. 11 traffic stop ended with a ticket for Miami police officer Fausto Lopez, but also appeared to have created a firestorm of controversy between Miami police and the FHP. Miami officers are backing their colleagues and criticizing FHP for treating him as though he was a criminal, while the FHP troopers and the public are criticizing the officer for speeding and not obeying the law.
The FHP recording is garbled and unclear at times, with different people speaking, often using law enforcement dispatch signals and codes. It begins a few minutes before 6:30 a.m., with Watts saying a car is going more than 120 mph and moving in and out of traffic.
Lopez was southbound on the turnpike around 6:30 a.m. He later said he was on his way to an off-duty detail at a school.
Later from Watts: "All I can see is white patrol car, with blue or something like that, lights. It would be a Miami or FDOT, and I'm sure it's not DOT.''
"If it's a patrol car just have her back off,'' a voice is heard telling FHP dispatchers. Whether that message was relayed to Watts was unclear.
Later on, a voice asks on the recording: "what department is it?" Another answers, "We're trying to ascertain."
Watts chimes in: "It is a Miami police."
With her sirens wailing in the background, she calls in a tag number. Someone asks on the tape whether she stopped the car.
Watts: "He slowed to 78, but won't stop."
Watts eventually stopped Lopez near Hollywood Boulevard.
On the video, a voice says, "Just get the tag and the unit number and I'll pass it on." Watts responds, "stand by."

Read more: FHP supervisor told trooper to 'back off' chase of Miami cop - 11/04/2011 | MiamiHerald.com
 

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So her excuse for not answering the radio? "oh, I didn't hear anyone calling me." This whole thing is such an embarrassment.
 

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Is this a new word? If so, I like it! I'm gonna use this at work someplace. I don't know where yet but I'm gonna use it. I know, maybe at the next COMPSTAT session. That ought to make points with the chief!
I'm pretty sure I got that one from someone here. If not it had to be from "Angry Pete". I say go for it with COMPSTAT, it's always fun getting use new words in a sentence. :shades_smile:
 
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