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Hello all, I had a question about using emergency lights/sirens on personal emt vehicles in the state of Massachusetts. I currently work in a federal capacity of law enforcement and we can have lights due to the statues. I am becoming and EMT B and was wondering if I am allowed to have lights on my vehicle. I will be a FEMA responder as well due to the program/academy I am going to. I was just wondering if I am allowed to have lights, and we have blue for work. But I read you could have blue and red for EMS? If anyone knows anything please let me know! Thanks,
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You cannot have blue lights at all on your personal vehicle unless you're a police officer and have a permit. You can get a red light permit from your fire chief if you are a call firefighter and or emt for a municipality. There are no provisions in the law allowing private emts to have red light permits. Also if you have a red light permit you cannot display blue lights facing back as some on call firefighter are doing on their POVs. Only fire apparatus vehicles may display a blue light in the opposite direction.


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You cannot have blue lights at all on your personal vehicle unless you're a police officer and have a permit. You can get a red light permit from your fire chief if you are a call firefighter and or emt for a municipality. There are no provisions in the law allowing private emts to have red light permits. Also if you have a red light permit you cannot display blue lights facing back as some on call firefighter are doing on their POVs. Only fire apparatus vehicles may display a blue light in the opposite direction.

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Thanks for responding and answering my questions! It was really helpful. Cheers
 

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You cannot have blue lights at all on your personal vehicle unless you're a police officer and have a permit.
Well you can if you get a permit by the Chief of Police, for instance Bolton Police has a Doctor on their ambulance squad and has blue lights. But we all know if you get disaster plates that trumps all. :D
 

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Since I'm too old and technologically backwards to cut this message up all fancy-like, I will just insert my comments in red:

Hello all, I had a question about using emergency lights/sirens on personal emt vehicles in the state of Massachusetts. (Rolling my eyes already) I currently work in a federal capacity of law enforcement So do I, I went to FLETC and walk the walk, I don't need to mince my words like you did. In fact I'm more than likely higher up the chain than even your supervisor's boss, so I've heard that one before and noticed your careful choice of words. Lemme guess...contract private security with the little FPS card about limited powers? Paragon perhaps? and we can have lights due to the statues Oh really. Where can you "have lights", when can you activate them, and what statutes do you mean? Or perhaps that's not an error and your lights are authorized by the Statue of Liberty herself? Or maybe the Turtleboy statue on Worcester Common? I am becoming and EMT B and was wondering if I am allowed to have lights on my vehicle. OK, let's stop right here. We all have met your type before. You don't even have the certs yet and you are thinking of vehicle lighting. That speaks volumes. I will be a FEMA responder as well due to the program/academy I am going to WTF does that have to do with lights? I've done that before, know countless people who have functions with FEMA in various capacities, yet not a single one of them has any kind of vehicle lighting connected to FEMA duties. I was just wondering if I am allowed to have lights, and we have blue for work. But I read you could have blue and red for EMS? If anyone knows anything please let me know! Thanks,
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P.S to the OP...I looked at your profile and you say you're only 18 years old. How are you working "in a Federal capacity of law enforcement" at 18?
 

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P.S to the OP...I looked at your profile and you say you're only 18 years old. How are you working "in a Federal capacity of law enforcement" at 18?
Devil's advocate here (whacker's advocate?? :eek:), but I know of offices who have had high school age interns, some even compensated I believe. Technically not working, but having some role "in a Federal capacity of law enforcement."
 

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I too have a femur. It gives me a leg to stand on in difficult situations.
 

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I wouldn't trust this guy if for nothing else than his lack of articulation.

What is a FEMA responder? Like you work for FEMA, or you took a couple self study courses and now have the certs?

EMT with emergency lights in your POV? In small towns, maybe a call EMT might be eligible.

But the whole thing is confusing. What are you? FEMA? EMT? Academy for what?
 

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I'm not worried about this person, but I'm not fully trusting either.
"Doveryai, no proveryai." (Trust, but verify) - President Ronald Reagan
 

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Sorry, I can't find that amusing. I know FAR too many Volunteer/Call Firefighters who are dedicated people and without whom, their communities would be laid to waste. They NEED those lights to get to the stations or the scenes of the incidents so that lives can be saved. I have no doubt that there are nutjobs out there who just LOVE using the emergency lights, just like there are so damn many cops who, at the first chance, will use the emergency lights to respond to NOISE complaints, PARKING complaints and what have you.

We get PAID a full time salary plus benefits. THEY get paid only when called out, or in the case of SOME Volunteer jobs, NOT AT ALL. Though in this day and age, I can't believe for a second that really happens.

Point being, they put their lives on the line, just like almost every public safety person, but for not nearly enough and with no real benefits.

If one of them gets a little happy with the lights, I say, SO BE IT! Personally think it means more to risk your life for nothing or next to it, then for a big paycheck and benefits. True dedication or, just a fucking job?
 
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