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DYS Apprehension Officers?

Discussion in 'Juvenile Corrections' started by Edmizer1, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. Edmizer1

    Edmizer1 MassCops Member

    Can anyone tell me what DYS Apprehension Officers
    are about? Do they have police powers or carry weapons? Just wondering because I just dealt with one for the first time. Seemed very professional.
     
  2. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    DYS is a really screwed up system in terms of seniority and job description.

    had a neighbor that did it, said they had allot of "agency' workers aka low paid private contractors.

    after a few years this individual got a job transporting the little bastards around. said it paid a little more and less headaches.

    never said anything about being armed. set of hand cuffs was it.

    tough job working "walpole's waiting room"
     
  3. 5-0

    5-0 Guest

    I have a friend who is one. I will ask if he has an account here. Maybe he will give you some insight. I do know that they are unarmed, and he says that he does alot of his apprehensions with other agencies.
     
  4. New Hire

    New Hire MassCops Member

    If I may....

    The AWOL apprehension officers track down kids who've violated their GCL (grant of conditional liberty). They also travel to track kids down as well, sometimes to other states.

    A lot of input in the thread below.

    https://www.masscops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16361

    AWOL officers ARE NOT armed and they often accompanied by local or State police (for obvious reasons) in the apprehension of deliquent juveniles. Compared to regular DYS state employed floor staff, they get compensated pretty well and don't have to worry about working scheduled weekend days.

    I concur with what pahapoika said below: DYS is a REALLY screwed up system in terms of job description, seniority and especially $$$$. I remember a few years back going to a rally @ the State House, having committee members ask how much trouble these "foster kids" really caused??

    :rolleyes:

    My time there was well spent and definitely good training for my current job....also glad I got out when I did....
     
  5. DPD6860

    DPD6860 MassCops Member

    If you dealt with that agency you probably should of asked him or her what the job is all about.
     
  6. fscpd907

    fscpd907 Subscribing Member

    I know they are required to attend the SSPO Academy.
     
  7. Delta784

    Delta784 Guest

    I just did an apprehension with them the other night....they had vests, MSP-style badges, but no weapons. They had an unmarked Impala with a blue & white state plate and a cage.

    Both guys were very professional, and obviously had their shit together.
     
  8. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    as a footnote , any DYS personal i have met are good guys and can handle themselves for obvious reasons.

    fighting young , strong and violent teenagers is no picnic and they do it without OC or baton.

    they really should get more money
     
  9. TC66

    TC66 New Member

    anyone know how often they post hirings for these jobs?
     
  10. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    i believe their always looking for help. maybe massgov.com ?

    not sure if their under public safety.........
     
  11. New Hire

    New Hire MassCops Member

    State employed entry level floorstaff salaries start @ $27K and change and top out at $35K.

    The next step is a shift supervisor, and then a shift administrator, which maxes out at a little over $44K. Keep in mind, this is after the 12th step.

    So, in theory, it would take someone 12 years to make $44,000.00. Nice, huh? I guess one good thing is there's always a ton of overtime and with the turnover rate being what it is, someone who's willing to make a sacrafice (I.E. work lousy shift/hours) can move up quickly.

    Click below for the mass.gov link

    http://ceo.hrd.state.ma.us/ceo.nsf/...852571b1006a6289?OpenDocument&Highlight=2,dys

    The AWOL officer job pops up once in a great while. Most of the time, the powers that be already have the person they want in mind and the posting/interview process is just a formality.

    Usually, whoever ends up with the job is someone who's got some time in with the dept.

    Which region or area does he work out of??

    nope...Dept. of Health and Human Services.

    :rolleyes:
     
  12. TC66

    TC66 New Member

    such high turnover..what do they just maintain an endless application pool or what.. think i'm missing something on this one..
     
  13. New Hire

    New Hire MassCops Member

    No, you're not missing anything. And yes, the pool of applications at my old unit seemed endless.

    I was doing interviews for contracted (private vendor) entry level staff at least once a month for the last year I was there. Usually 5 or 6 each time.
     
  14. csauce777

    csauce777 Supporting Member

    Come to the DYS Secure Unit inside Plymouth County Correctional Facility...lots of fun there. As im sure NewHire can attest to...we hold all 1st Degree Murder Juvies, as well as most juveniles who are behavior problems and are assaultive to staff at other units, they come to us for a "time out." We have no contract employees, only state employees.
     
  15. New Hire

    New Hire MassCops Member

    Ah yes, Plymouth's rendition of DYS.

    Take everything you're taught working on a regular DYS unit and leave it in your car. You're not going to need it in there....

    I worked overtime shifts there from time to time and was actually assigned there for a couple weeks back in May of 1999 during the Departments futile attempt at becoming accredited...

    Those kids DO NOT care about anything and they spend all their time trying glorifying the adult prison system...which is probably a good thing since that's the next stop anyway...

    A few of the guys I worked with were there back when Eddie O"Brien was held there...
     
  16. csauce777

    csauce777 Supporting Member

    Still the same at Plymouth...almost all of them know theyre going upstate to DOC so they just dont give a shit. The only exception seem to be the ones that get into one too many fight at another unit, or go AWOL and get sent to us. They come in through booking, get put into a tiny AD-SEG cell and sit there for several hours only to be strip searched, and put into PCCF inmate uniforms and given a sandwich and a juice for dinner. Then they get escorted upstairs to the unit and are locked down for a few days until they are evaluated. The look on the first timers faces is priceless. We still get high profile kids too...one recently.
     
  17. rg1283

    rg1283 MassCops Member

    Don't forget the DYS Transport or whatever they are called. They are equal to a MASS DOC or Sheriff Transport Prisoner System type set-up, but deal only with DYS. They wear plain cloths, unarmed, carry typical restraints (Cuffs, Leg Irons). Have IDs and Hats. They drive unmarked Cage Cars or Cage Vans with State Plates. I see them all the time at the Adol. Psych Unit I work at. As far as DYS's prisons are concerned, I only hope some of these kids stay out of trouble. But in reality DYS is preschool for future DOC Prisoners alot of the times.
     
  18. csauce777

    csauce777 Supporting Member

    Many of our kids at Plymouth are discharged directly to DOC from court dates. They leave Plymouth in the morning and leave court in the afternoon headed for MCI-Walpole. I couldnt think of a better place for most of them...

    Man gets prison in 2004 Beacon Hill rape

    March 7, 2007
    An 18-year-old former Roxbury man was sentenced to 16 to 20 years in state prison yesterday after pleading guilty to charges that he repeatedly raped a Beacon Hill woman at gunpoint in November 2004.

    Zaquan Martin, who was 16 at the time of the attack, was indicted as a youthful offender, meaning he could receive the same sentence as an adult if convicted. Otherwise, at most Martin could have been committed to the Department of Youth Services until his 18th birthday.
    Martin pleaded guilty in Suffolk Superior Court in Boston to three counts of aggravated rape, two counts each of kidnapping, armed robbery, and assault with a dangerous weapon, and one count each of home invasion and gun possession.
    Prosecutors have said Martin forced the woman into her Joy Street apartment. When the woman's roommate came home, he tied her up while ransacking the apartment, prosecutors have said.
    The crime scared women in the neighborhood, who received whistles from police. Police arrested Martin after three days of investigation, saying they had found a gun and personal items belonging to the victim in his home.
    Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said he is pleased with the guilty plea because Martin will face substantial time in prison and his victim will be spared the ordeal of testifying.
    "It was a terrifying and horrible crime," Conley said in an interview yesterday. He called the victim a "very strong woman" who was "prepared to look Zaquan Martin in the eye and identify him as the perpetrator of this brutal crime."
    Martin's attorney, Pierre Monette Jr., said the plea deal was the best option for Martin, who Monette said could have faced 25 years or more in prison if convicted at trial.
    "Unfortunately, he made an extremely unwise decision when he was 16 years of age that now that he's an 18-year-old he has taken responsibility for," Monette said in a telephone interview.

    Biggest pain in the A** we had at Plymouth, I hope he enjoys his stay with DOC...
     
  19. ecpd402

    ecpd402 Subscribing Member

    I went to the academy (SSPO) with a DYS apprehension officer. He enjoys the job. From what he told me they are unarmed. They usually patrol with the MSP or BPD gang units, since most of the DYS offenders are in gangs. He really like the job and was a squared away guy. To get this position people usually come up from the ranks such a a DYS correction officer move up to Apprehension officer.
     
  20. New Hire

    New Hire MassCops Member

    I think there are only a couple assigned to each region which makes these jobs even tougher to land.

    Southeast, Central, Metro and Western are the regions they cover. One of the guys who worked in the region I was in ended up leaving a couple years back to work for the Feds.
     
  21. Deputydog522

    Deputydog522 MassCops Member

    I know that they get sent to the SSPO Academy and they do not carry anything!!! No weapons, but it is a decent job I guess. I know someone that went over there, and I ran into him and he said he has a take home car. I dont know, he said the job is good. I dont know.
     

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