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Department is moving to S&W MP 9's

Discussion in 'Firepower!!!' started by ClintEastwood4Sheriff, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. ClintEastwood4Sheriff

    ClintEastwood4Sheriff MassCops Member


    The department I work for is moving from Glock 22's to Smith and Wesson M & P 9mm. I got to briefly test the Smith and I like the way it feels. I was wondering if anyone else has recently transitioned to the Smith and has any input. Thanks in advance.
  2. CapeSpecial

    CapeSpecial MassCops Member

    Hope they're going with the 2.0
  3. ClintEastwood4Sheriff

    ClintEastwood4Sheriff MassCops Member

    Yes the 2.0’s

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  4. Goose

    Goose The list is long but distinguished. Staff Member

    I haven't shot the 2.0 yet but I've been carrying the original M&P 9 for six years now. The 9 2.0 Compact will probably be my next purchase. The 2.0's have a much better trigger than the "1.5"'s and better trigger and reset than the "1.0"'s.
  5. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    PHUK SSPO and GLOCK Both!!!;)
  6. CCCSD

    CCCSD MassCops Member

    You don’t like PHUCK SSPO? Harsh. What did he do to you?
  7. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    I've owned both Glocks and M&Ps. The original M&P triggers were no good at all; gritty, unpredictable break, and no felt reset. They improved the reset immensely in later models, but the trigger was still heavy and gritty unless you put an Apex Duty/Carry enhancement kit in it. The 2.0 smoothed it out a little more, but it's still far from the best on the market. Honestly, it's a shame and inexcusable IMO. Number one, most of the new pistols released before and since the 2.0, such as the HK VP 9, Walther PPQ, Sig P320, CZ P10, and Glock Gen5 pistols have excellent triggers. Number two, an Apex kit is a quick fix to that problem and puts the M&P on par with the other new striker fired guns. Why they couldn't do that straight from the factory is beyond me.

    That said, the M&P is a reliable, rugged, very comfortable and easy to maintain gun. I certainly wouldn't fault your department for picking them up.
  8. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    Have seen one department go from Glock 22 to M&P 45 and now back to Glock 9 mm.

    That's roughly a new roscoe every 3 years ! Sounds like the armory guys have been reading too much gun porn :p
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  9. MiamiVice

    MiamiVice MassCops Member

    I've carried both glock and m&p at work. Started with glock 19, then 23, then 22, then m&p45, now back to glock 19. The glock 19 is hands down winner, the m&p was a low bidder piece of shit. Parts rusted and had to be sent back, mag springs failed after 2 years, causing numerous malfunctions, I'd never buy a m&p. The glock 22 was ok a few malfunctions I recall. Never had a malfunction in either of the 19's.

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  10. Hush

    Hush Moderator Staff Member

    Departments want to either copy the FBI (smart), be unique (dumb), or choose a pistol based on kickbacks from the distributor (corrupt). The shift back to 9mm is a good choice all around. Glock is great, the new M&P 2.0 has a decent track far. Next step is to make pistol mounted lights are universal, then work on RMR type red dot optics. The advantages to both are clear, but many departments are still helmed by those brought up on revolvers.

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  11. HuskyH-2

    HuskyH-2 G-Rap made me do it!

    Not a fan of the M&P and definitely noticed rusting. If I got caught in a little rain I had to clean the gun ASAP.

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  12. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    Are there any wheelgun guys left ?
    Thought we were all put out to pasture :D
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  13. kdk240

    kdk240 MassCops Member

    NOPE, still love a wheel gun, and (other guns too),but I still carry a snubby off duty and..... now to accompany my newly issued gen 5 piece of shit!!!
    (I've fired the 2.o, and watched my armorer break it down during test runs. we all thought it to be a decent weapon, but we continued with the glock trend.) $$..
    That said we just went from the, 22/23 which I really really liked to 17/19 gen 5's.
    I admit I've been a Glock platform guy both personally owning several, and as a duty weapon with no issues for the previous generations. The gen 5 we have had the following, sights falling off more times than I can count from the factory or shipped missing sights (Yep), we had a few w/ trigger spring issues (Got corrected w/ new springs) , several ftf, and barrel fouling from the factory that we can't explain and imo the new finish sucks too. That's just a few things. Perhaps we got a bad batch I don't know but I don't see how. I know glock went to make it right, but I'll say not only am I a bit soured now I don't really trust it. But hey that's just my own opinion. Give me a gen 3 and or work backwards a few gens and I'll take it. ! Just my opinion from what I have experienced. Sadly because I really like the weapon.
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  14. LA Copper

    LA Copper Subscribing Member

    Hi Pahp,
    I was issued a .38 wheel gun when I came on the job back in 1988, but I put it in my locker as soon as I was allowed to do so. I upgraded to my Beretta 9mm in 1990, which I still carry, 28 years later. I've put thousands of rounds through it since then without ever having a problem plus I shoot well with it.

    "If it ain't broke, why fix it."
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  15. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    Same. Got on in 1991 and carried the revolver until something like 2006. Still wear my LAPRAAC T-shirt with pride.

    As a side note used to be a Glock Goober until talking a family member into buying a g43. That thing is a jam-amatic :rolleyes:
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  16. Tuna

    Tuna Always entertained

    Started with a S&W mod 65. went to Sigma 40 in 1997. (piece of shit.) Went to Glock mod 22 (loved it). In 2011 moved to the M&P 40 ( no problems just don't like the feel). My personnel carry is a Glock 23 (love it)
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  17. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    You guys must have had a bad batch, because I've heard nothing but good things about the Gen5 from everyone else. I love my Gen5 19 as well. I will say, I was disappointed that they STILL didn't upgraded those plastic sights (not that it matters to me, because I got one with night sights, but still...).
  18. kdk240

    kdk240 MassCops Member

    We got a bad batch for sure. But I know they did try to do the fixes to make it right.
    We still.have a few here and there with the sights but that' being corrected
  19. 02136colonel

    02136colonel Supporting Member

    How do you like the grips on the Gen 5? I have a 19 Gen 4 that is my favorite gun hands down, but I think the Gen 5 almost looks like a step backwards in terms of having a less aggressive grip.
  20. PG1911

    PG1911 Back Out in the Sticks

    I love it. the Gen5 fits my hand perfectly. I never much cared for the finger grooves of the earlier models. They didn't bother me, per say, but I prefer the finger-less grip. The texture is just as aggressive, and I feel like the overall ergonomics of the Gen5 make it so it's just as good, if not a step forward, in terms of grip. Another thing I like about the Gen5 19 is that it comes stock with the smooth face trigger. I've always HATED the ridged/serrated triggers Glock put on their compact and subcompact guns, so I had to order and drop in a smooth face G17 trigger when I got my Gen4 19. True, it's an easy, cheap fix, but I like that the Gen5 19 comes that way without me having to buy an extra part.

    All that said, this is my personal feeling about the Gen5. A lot of guys like the finger grooves and the serrated trigger on the earlier models and, you know, different strokes for different folks. Both generations are equally good quality, so I don't think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by sticking with your Gen4.
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  21. mpd61

    mpd61 Retired Fed, Active Special

    Started with Model 67 S&W (1983) then M-13 for brief period. TODAY I would carry a Ruger GP100 or Smith 686 on duty if I could. I LOVE a wheel gun! Wheel gun=real gun! LOL!
    Had Sigma and M&P, but currently carry P226 in 9mm on-duty.

    PHUK SSPO and GLOCK!!!!
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  22. pahapoika

    pahapoika Subscribing Member

    Same. Never liked the finger grooves Bought a factory refurbished Gen 2 instead of the new model.

    Funny thing was they were the same price because the older Glock was a "pre-ban" :rolleyes:

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