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What are your opinions as far as the best or most effective sirens, lightbars, secondary lighting, and other vehicle equipment for cruisers. Just equipment your department uses is sufficient. Would like you hear from you.
 

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Why dont you worry more about trying to get on the job than what every one has in their vehicles. I doubt very highly that, if you should ever get on the job, the powers that be will let you set up their car the way you see fit.
There is only one person involved in choosing the equipment to be setup in the cars and once they have chosen the equipment, they give their request to the guys at MHQ to take care of it. I make suggestions and they have taken them seriously. If you thought I said "this is what I want in the cruisers, give it to me", your wrong. As far as getting a job, if I get a job with Marlborough, there are officers there that are looking forward to being my co-worker.
 

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The Equipment forum is reserved for the discussion of police equipment, including cruisers and the equipment in them. I dont know why you guys start going spastic when I ask a question on what departments have in their cars. Dont worry I am not going to equip my personal vehicle with all kinds of police equipment, because you know its against the law without the chief of police's consent. So why dont you guys come back to reality. Some of you guys just go out there looking for a topic or reply to make sarcastic comments about. That is not what this forum is about, I hope that has come to your attention. By the way USMCMP answer this question, are you a civilian dispatcher or were you a PO before you became a dispatcher or are you a PO that is qualified to be a dispatcher so you can fill in when the need arises.
 

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Guys lets keep it civil in here... Marlborough.. how old are you??? Have you taken steps to get on the PD?

As stated in other posts... be careful what you write on this board... you never know who is reading....
 

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I'd say don't feed the trolls. Granted he's disrespected the armed services and never apologized, so that that end I just wouldn't respond.
It's obvious that he doesn't really know anything about law enforcement save what his dad told him, so just ignore him.

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There is only one person involved in choosing the equipment to be setup in the cars and once they have chosen the equipment, they give their request to the guys at MHQ to take care of it. I make suggestions and they have taken them seriously. If you thought I said "this is what I want in the cruisers, give it to me", your wrong. As far as getting a job, if I get a job with Marlborough, there are officers there that are looking forward to being my co-worker.
Marlborough,

The only thing you can come up with is " I made a suggestion to MHQ and they took it" and "if I get a job with Marlborough, there are officers there that are looking forward to being my co-worker:" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

#1, There is always more than one person involved in choosing how a car is set up.

#2, Anyone can make a suggestion,

#3, You say "If I get a job at Marlborough", That's a pretty BIG IF........

Take some constructive criticism, SHUT UP!!!. Get a clue...... Haven't you realized how many people here believe you are a joke........99.9% of your posts have resulted in sarcastic feedback....... The only thing you have proven here is that you are a whacker and a sparkey, plain and simple. I wouldn't want you any where near my station, never mind working with me on the desk. The way you present yourself on this board, I wouldn't trust you with a rubber Looney Tunes Ray Gun and a Little Tikes peddle car. What makes you think, for a minute, that you are the cats meow and deserve the job, besides your dad is a cop? All I see is some sniveling little IMMATURE whacker wanna be kid. If you want to get on the job, try opening your eyes and ears, close the hole under your nose, and grow up. Then maybe, just maybe, you might get a chance.

Sorry Gil, I'll get off my soap box now.... and get back on topic.[/quote]
 

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As long as the lights, siren, secondary lighting and most cases, the REAL IMPORTANT STUFF [in no paticular order of importance] like, suspension, engine, brakes w/o the squeeling, department/mutual aid radio if you need a listing or help, MDT, scanner to hear other departments put out BOLO's that your dispatchers' miss, AM/FM Radio (hopefully with CD player), and cupholder for D&D (or water for those on Atkins) I would gather that most officers on the job don't give it too much thought.

Yes, some may have preferences between strobes and rotating light bars. In general, as long as people move out of the way, which they usually don't, regardless if you have a Federal Signal siren or Whalen lightbar, it is really not a big issue within departments. Most of the time it is the Chief, Brass, or Maintenance/Equipment Officer that has a real say in what packages are ordered, and at that, the budgit has its say too... so for the rank and file, it is kind of a moot issue. Atleast that is the way I have seen it from the two departments I have worked within. Just my opinion, take it for what it is worth.
 

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I never said I made a suggestion to MHQ, I made a suggestion to the person on the PD that does up the equipment to put on the cruisers then he gives it to MHQ. If I really offended anyone in the past, I'm sorry. You can say whatever you want about me, I am not offended nor will I ever be. I could care less about what you say about me.

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Basically, you are correct about sirens and about officers and lighting their cruisers have. The concern I have about sirens is the quality and the projection of the siren. My opinion, Code 3 has a problem when it comes to both of those issues. Marlborough has had 3 or 4 Code 3 speakers blow over the past year and Code 3s yelp tone doesnt reach out like the Whelen and Federal Signal sirens do. The other Code 3 tones (wail and hi/lo) reach out pretty good. Some departments choose the Whelen siren because Ford already equips their P71s with the wiring harness for a whelen siren. As far as lighting goes, I like a lot of lights that way if you ever get into an accident, they cant say they didnt see you.
 

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As far as lighting goes, I like a lot of lights that way if you ever get into an accident, they cant say they didnt see you.
:L: :-k :roll: Well, there was my amusement for the day.

You sure you're not a constable?
 

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The concern I have about sirens is the quality and the projection of the siren.

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The projection of a siren can be altered by choosing from a variety of speakers. I believe typical siren speakers range from 59 Watts to 100 Watts. Some sirens will drive up to 200 Watts (2 100 Watt speakers).
 

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I thought about that but I wasnt sure if that was possible. I was thinking about using a Whelen speaker with a Code 3 siren because the new Whelen 100 watt speakers are really loud and project very well.
 

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What if they hit you backwards?
The same thing would apply if you got strobes in your reverse lights, flashers in your taillights, rear deck lights, obviously the rear part of the lightbar would be lit up, and you could add strobe or LED lightheads on the rear bumper or on the trunk between the taillights and reverse lights.

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Actually, it's the Registry of Motor Vehicles consent, they issue the permit with the Chief's endorsement.
Thats not what it says in Chapter 90 Section 7E

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IMO, hi/lo sucks. Unless of course you're French. Inspector Clouseau, coming through!
I gotta agree with you there. I think the marlborough officers using a cruiser with a code 3 siren have the same view on it. Marlborough has used the code 3 siren for almost 2 years and I have only heard it used twice. They primarily use the wail and yelp. I like the Whelen Piercer tone. Code 3 has that tone as the hyper-yelp (hold the manual button while using the yelp tone)

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Also you've got me confused here...when you're talking sirens, are you talking drivers or speakers? You can use a Code 3 speaker with a Whelen driver. Is the projection problem in the speaker or the amp? How about placement? The Federal BP_100's would mount on a pushbar but the brackets fell victim to bimetal corrosion. The old Whelen speakers atop the lightbars had great projection but would fill up with snow. Any speaker will sound like crap if it's just crimped in and not weatherproofed.
What is a driver? Marlborough uses code 3 speaker with a code 3 siren, whelen speaker with a whelen siren, and a federal signal speaker with a federal signal siren. 6 of the 8 patrol cars have code 3 sirens. the other 2 have whelen sirens. the supervisors car (5 years old) and the traffic car (also 5 years old) have federal signal sirens. I believe the projection is in the speaker because Marlborough has the 100 watt slim line. You can check it out at http://www.code3pse.com/productdtl.asp?grp=cd3&familyid=5&id=31. Marlborough doesnt have push bumpers on their cruisers, they mount their speakers right behind the grille. You can see the speaker right through the grill. Marlborough never used the whelen speakers that mounted on the lightbars.

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What exactly do you mean by Ford P71's being prewired for Whelen - you mean a two wire speaker harness or multiconnector siren driver a la the old B-link??
I dont know. All I know is that is was cheaper in the new cars to get a whelen siren because it already had a wire harness for a siren. I dont know if its for the drive or the speaker.
 

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this is foolish, Marlborough, Marlborough, Marlborough. They have 1 of the top 5 ugliest cars in the state, white w/shitty decals. 800 mhz radios that are useless 2 miles out of the city...... etc etc etc.

Try opening your eyes, the liitle town to the South has some of the sharpest best equiped cars in the state, or look to the West at thier new cars.

For those of you who aren't yet old enough to own a handgun, drink beer, or go to a Casino, the driver is the amplifier portion of the siren, the reason the Whelen sirens are louder is that the WHFS-2195 series is a 200 watt siren, if you attatch it to a 200 watt capable speaker.
 

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Hey MiamiVice

I dont know about other departments, that is why I started this forum topic. I wanted some input and broaden my horizons. But no, you guys arent taken me seriously.

If you think that Marlborough has crap designs, why do you go down to florida and tell all of those departments that their cruisers' designs suck. Melbourne and Cocoa Beach PD have the same scheme as Marlborough. Most of them have a variation of one design or another. Like that forum topic about that guy that got a speeding ticket and said he was going that fast because it was the flow of traffic. You are just like him "going with the flow of traffic" having black and white cruisers. A lot of departments have the exact same scheme. Dont get me wrong, I dont think marlborough has the best cruiser scheme but I think they are better than the black and whites.

I wouldnt know about how well Southboroughs cruisers are equipped. Why dont you enlighten me about their cruisers. After all that is what I initially asked didnt I. Geographically west of marlborough is Northborough, and I think that is one of the crappiest looking cruiser in the state.

cambridge, sudbury, tyngsborough, and worcester have 800 MHz radio frequencies. Why dont you go bitch to them too. Why is the range out of the city or town so important. If there is a chase that goes into the next town, that is what they are for, calling the pursuit. By the way, I remember a chase that started in Marlborough went out of town and Marlborough was engaged in the chase for about 30 min. and as soon as they were called off, all of the other TOWNS that were also engaged in the pursuit lost the suspect within 5 minutes of Marlborough getting called off. City PDs dont dick around when it comes to getting the job done on a general note. [/u]
 

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My favorite patrol cars to look at are Weston PD's Impalas. The Chief must love lights because theirs are some of the brightest I've seen and the lights are everywhere you can think of! It hurts to look at one traveling code 3 at night. :lol:
 

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My favorite patrol cars to look at are Weston PD's Impalas. The Chief must love lights because theirs are some of the brightest I've seen and the lights are everywhere you can think of! It hurts to look at one traveling code 3 at night. :lol:
Sounds like a fed car I saw the other day... lights on the pushbar, a huge LED lightbar, lights on the rear deck, lights on the mirrors... Federal Protective Service I think it was... not sure though.
 

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The projection of a siren can be altered by choosing from a variety of speakers. I believe typical siren speakers range from 59 Watts to 100 Watts. Some sirens will drive up to 200 Watts (2 100 Watt speakers).
So what you are saying is the 200 watt sirens feed 2 speakers. So there is no 200 watt speaker. If that is true then, Marlboroughs P6 and P8 only have 100 watt sirens because they only have 1 speaker and the 295HFS series only comes in 100 and 200 watt systems.
 
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