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After reading about the incident in Georgia it got me thinking. Court security in Massachusetts is a joke. The only armed people in the building are the police officers who are their with cases. I even know a few officers that don't carry when they have court. I think it is time to have armed personnel assigned to the court houses. I think this would be a sensible duty for the Sheriffs. This is not meant as a joke so lets not turn this into a shit storm that gets the topic locked.
 

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That's a really good Idea. Definately a good Idea for the Sheriff's Not such a good Idea to have the current staff armed.

Just my :2c:

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Very good idea. Not a 100% sure, but I think MA is one of the only states that doesn't have armed Officers in the court house.
 

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Why not just arm the court officers and not give the assignment to the sheriffs.
 

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Why not just arm the court officers and not give the assignment to the sheriffs.
Umm... Have you seen some of the people working at the courthouses?

I really don't think we need Shaniqua with her 3 inch long nails runnin around the courthouse with a gun.

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Why not just arm the court officers and not give the assignment to the sheriffs.
I have a great relationship with the court officers at my local district court. The reason that they should not be armed is simple. Look at the incident in Georgia. The people who have direct contact with the detainees should not be armed. Just like you never bring your firearm into the booking room.
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Right after 9-11 when the courts installed the metal detctors and hired people to man them there was also a program to train and arm the court officers,
but due to the budget it was never put into place
and there was never any training given.
 

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I agree that the court officers should not be armed for SO MANY reasons. First among them being the close contact with prisoners. Also, I am not sure of the details of the Georgia situation regarding restraining the defendant. However, I think that if a defendant is on trial for a violent crime like rape, etc., then shouldn't he be securly restrained so as to avoid this type of situation? He should have been in shackles during the trial, who cares if it puts a negative image of the scum in the eyes of the jurors.
 

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Court officers don't carry for the same 9-14 reasons ( or more if they were to carry an extra clip) correctional officers don't carry. The court officer in Georgia or deputy that escorted the man was a 51 year old grandmother. Go figure.
 

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That's exactly it, this is by no means a dig towards women but having a small old lady escort a 6' tall guy is just dumb. It's just physics, let alone the weapons retention training that said officer didn't seem to posses.
 

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5'2" female Deputy Sheriff VS. 6'1" 210 lb. ex-football player = Trouble

Let's face it people. I am not a betting man here but odds were in this guys favor. Guy has 2 shanks taken away from him last week and is on trial for rape (again) with a long history of violence & only 1 lone deputy escorting him into the courtroom changing area spells trouble. Even if it wasn't a female D/S there would be recriminations enough to go around.

4 people are dead because of an inept system in Gwinnett County GA. If anybody should hang, it's the boob that assigned her and her alone to do the escort. WTF was that guy thinking??

I am not s#itting on women in the LE profession but if i am ever in a jam, I know of some cops (men included) who I wouldn''t want at the scene since they are more trouble than help. I do want the biggest, meanest, SOB we have to get there to help take my a$$ out of the jam. Not some sickly 130 pound wimp who is afraid of their own shadow. Just gives the bad guy an extra gun within their grasp from which to grab & shoot myself and others.

Scenario #1 - Big fire at a 4th floor walk up in the bricks and you are trapped and about to lose consciousness from smoke inhalation. Who do you want to save you? A brawny & strapping 6 foot FF or cop who can lift you over his shoulder & carry you to safety with ease or a 5'6" "quota" who can't even get out of their own way but were hired to make the FD or PD look politically correct? I know who I want. HC
 

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HousingCop";p="59607 said:
.....or a 5'6" "quota" who can't even get out of their own way but were hired to make the FD or PD look politically correct?........
100% correct!
I believe the majority of people feel the same way,
or at least they would if their ass was in the shit.
Its not discriminatory or misogynistic, its simply biology.
 

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I think the court officers should at least get some kind of general training, and need to requal 2X's a year. Plain and simple --- Get the budget!!
 

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HousingCop";p="59607 said:
5'2" Deputy Sheriff VS. 6'1" 210 lb. ex-football player = Trouble

Let's face it people. I am not a betting man here but odds were in this guys favor. Guy has 2 shanks taken away from him last week and is on trial for rape (again) with a long history of violence & only 1 lone deputy escorting him into the courtroom changing area spells trouble. Even if it wasn't a female D/S there would be recriminations enough to go around.
Damn Straight Ed!!!!!
The gender question is irrelevant, as you point out! Just shitty practices.
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