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If court is in session, it's straight to court after booking at our station. I gladly comply with all BPD's (and whomever I'm dealing with) rules even though they can be a little cumbersome at times. It is their city and I respect that we're using their cells, as we all should.

Equal respect goes a long way. I stress EQUAL.
 

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..NO BOOKING FOR YOU!!!! 3 MONTHS!!!!
LMAO:L:

I've had very little trouble at BPD slightly more at CPD but usually at most it's just the "Sigh, I have to do something, sigh." hell I don't want to do anything either but we all know, sometimes you HAVE to.

I know we in the non-municipal side of things (regardless of which job that might be) have our horror stories, but overall, I've found the people I'm dealing with are professional and decent. I'm grateful for that. I'm not looking to be your best buddy and hang with you or follow you around like a puppy, but I don't want to give or get grief either. Let's just do what we're paid to do and leave it at that. If we develope a very nice comfortable relationship, great.
 

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A jurisdictional matter....a certain college police department from Comm av. witnessed a stabbing on a city street no where near their campus, however it was close to Boston Med Center. Officers arrested the suspect. Notified BPD, campus refused to release suspect from the police car when BPD arrived. Campus took suspect to their police station. Still refused to release prisoner to BPD even after the Superintendent arrived on scene and spoke to the chief from the campus. Superintendent had to call Sheriff Cabral and DA Conley to instruct Campus officers to release prisoner to BPD. After many hours the campus released the prisoner and told BPD that they would handle the court complaints. Again after DA Conley told them that it was outside their jurisdiction. Best part of the story.....that night at roll call the Deputy addressed the officers and told them that a meeting had been held with campus departments and it was agreed that any crimes that happen on a city street would be handled and responded to by BPD officers, any crimes on campuses would be handles by a campus officer......he was not too happy when he had to return two hours later and deal with this nonsense. Please reference my past posts about same issues.
In that instance that certain department was wrong, no question. Whenever we've grabbed someone off property (and honestly, unless you're some place like UMass/Boston where the property is segregated, you can't help but trip over something on a city street now and then and I'll be damned I'm going to ignore a felony because it's not on my property. I will ALWAYS notify the locals and hand over the arrest should they want it. Hell, without me going to court as well, they probably won't get diddly if I'm the one who witnessed it, so what do I have to lose? Nothing, I get paid too and the lowlife is STILL locked up.

If the locals decline, fine and dandy, I'll take it, but I never NOT offer it up. That's how it should always be.

But just like that department screwed up that time, I've dealt with locals who've screwed up and I will not ever judge that whole department because of one or two morons or possibly good decent guys who made an error. It happens. I would hope everyone feels this way. It goes back to my EQUAL respect belief.
 

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Read my previous post to see where I stand on the issue, but bottom line, isn't the fact that the stabber was arrested really the only important thing? I'm sure that's how the victim sees it.
 

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If that ain't fresh and continuous pursuit, what the hell is?
 

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By John R. Ellement
Globe Staff / October 6, 2008

In some ways, it has been a good year for Robert Aldrich, a Dorchester man who Suffolk County prosecutors allege has spent much of his adult life breaking into people's homes across Greater Boston and making off with purses, laptops, and jewelry.

Representing himself, he has persuaded two Superior Court judges to toss out evidence, rulings so crippling to prosecutors that two other Superior Court judges stopped trials midstream and declared him not guilty of multiple break-ins in Boston this summer.
Aldrich now wants the state to pay him $66,283.85 - including income lost while in jail awaiting trial, (just how much would he have earned from stealing in that time frame?) money to replace his mother's sport utility vehicle, (after he pays the storage charge for not having picked it up, what would that come to?) which was crushed after it was left in a Boston tow lot, and money to replace a doorframe he said police broke when they searched his Bullard Street home. (Guess someone should have opened the door FOR them.)
"I am simply asking for compensation," Aldrich told Suffolk Superior Court Judge Nancy Staffier-Holtz on Friday.
Aldrich, who said he has been trained as a paralegal, is relying on a state law so obscure that several defense lawyers interviewed were unfamiliar with it. Enacted around 1911 and updated in 1978, it has been reviewed by the Supreme Judicial Court three times, the last time in 1988.
Under the law, someone jailed for more than six months awaiting trial who has been acquitted, or had charges dropped, is entitled to what he or she would have earned based on two years of income history. If the person is unemployed, a judge determines a "reasonable sum." (What it cost to house and feed him should be deducted if you ask me.)
In order to collect, however, the person must show that the time spent behind bars was not his or her fault, the SJC has said. That person also must not have agreed to a continuance or given "implied consent" to postpone trial, a standard that one lawyer said Friday limits any chance of recovery.
"The implied consent kills you," said Stephen Hrones, who has sued on behalf of the wrongly convicted, but not for anyone who had been acquitted. "I just didn't think [a suit had] any chance of success in light of the case law."
Aldrich's case began on March 12, 2007, when Milton police investigating a break-in were given a description of an SUV driving away. One officer drove into Dorchester, spotted Aldrich driving his mother's SUV around dawn, and pulled him over because he allegedly did not have the headlights on.
The officer called for backup, and three Milton cruisers blocked Aldrich on the Dorchester street until Boston police arrived, and arrested him for allegedly driving with a suspended license.
Boston police got a search warrant and found ATM cards, purses, a rotary saw, a computer, and books on how to improve your writing (well every criminal should know how to write well)- pieces of property stolen from eight locations, according to court records.
Following hearings at which Aldrich questioned witnesses - including one Milton officer who said he remembered Aldrich from a break-in at his mother's house in the 1980s - Superior Court Judge Thomas E. Connolly ruled that Milton police had no legal authority to stop him in Boston, and blocked prosecutors from linking Aldrich to the SUV. (Why would anyone link a guy to his MOTHER'S SUV?)

The judge also said Aldrich was pulled over after sunrise. He noted in his opinion that Milton police stopped Aldrich around 6:20 a.m., on a day when sunrise was 6:10 a.m. On that day, Aldrich would have been able to shut his headlights off at 5:40 a.m. legally, according to the ruling. (First off, if it's freaking dark, it's dark, that whole 1/2 before and after is silly. Second, so the Milton Officer was required to know precisely the time of sunrise? WTF???)
Aldrich also demonstrated at the hearings that he had his license suspension overturned, and had been driving with a legal permit.
Prompted again by Aldrich after other hearings, Superior Court Judge Frank Gaziano ruled in favor of Aldrich and said prosecutors could not use the stolen items against Aldrich because of the illegal stop by Milton police, according to court records.
Suffolk prosecutors still went to trial, but lost earlier this year.
At the time of his arrest, police seized the SUV and had it taken to a private Dorchester tow lot, according to court records. When the registered owner - identified in court records as Aldrich's mother - did not respond to registered letters asking her to claim the vehicle, the SUV was sent to a junkyard and crushed, (what a freaking shame. Guess someone should have answered those letters) according to court records.
With the rest of the story essentially pointing out what a scumbag this guy is, I left off there. Oh, it also said he earns $4100/month as a self employed home renovator. Yeah, he renovates homes of their contents!

If he gets this money, or ANY money, I hope very bad things happen to him forever and ever.

Welcome to Massachusetts!
 

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NEPS, Delta, I agree. Now, I know it would not apply to private PD's and that's life. I can understand if any legislature were reluctant to vest us with those types of powers, but for ANY city, town or other state law enforcement agency to be restricted in such ways is silly and counterproductive.

Be it Springfield, Boston, Worcester, Worcester State, Enviromental or what have you, statewide authority should be given very serious consideration and of course training should be more uniform as well. Sure, maybe not the full 26 week academy for all, but at least a more standardized training.

I know btw, that Enviromental Police have statewide jurisdiction, I was just giving random examples. Now, if they could only carry a firearm in all the courts.

WHEN WILL MASS-A-TWO-SHITS WAKE UP??????
 

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Delta, I would bet that the ACLU already has one all written up and is just keeping it safe and secure in case the issue ever comes up at the State House.
 

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Judge Burns was great. I remember when the college kids in his court would get "dismissed upon payment of court costs" dispositions and then they started suing cops becuase their cases were "dismissed" by the judge. Burns got furious over this and bought a stamp which he would put on every such case folder saying "Probable cause existed for arrest". Infuriated the defense attorneys.
I didn't often get to go before Judge Burns but on those rare occassions I did, he WAS terrific. Honest, fair, SANE. Judge Feloni (I don't recall how to spell his name) in Cambridge Court was terrific as well. Was never afraid to tell someone off, especially defendants who were pains in the ass. Again, Honest, Fair and SANE.

they're out there, but it seems their often barely honest, hardly fair and very INSANE. Not all though, thank the god of justice, there are still a few out there.

Those that are nuts at least have a shot at a TV show if they leave the real bench.

Maria, you out there?

Amen to that.

I have argued in favor of this very point elsewhere on this forum to the cheers of some and -- God knows why -- the jeers of others.
The only ones against it are those that can clearly see that all cops would be fascist goons out locking people up all over the Commonwealth much to the detriment of society as a whole and the community standards of some communities which might not be, nay NOT respected by said fascists. Please, you couldn't figure that out? You're a very smart person and should have SEEN that, but then again, your eyes are blinded by the fog of absolute power, so it's forgivable.......YA NAZI!
 

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NEPS, run for office, ANY OFFICE, I'll vote for you.
 

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In this state? Jeez, why don't you just come out and say you want to see me indicted?
Touche. I withdrawn my indictment...er nomination.
 
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