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CIA Agents Found Guilty In Italy

Discussion in 'War on Terror' started by Inspector, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. Inspector

    Inspector Subscribing Member

    A group of 23 CIA agents have been convicted of kidnapping an Egyptian cleric from Italy in a landmark case involving the agency's extraordinary rendition programme in the war on terrorism.
    Former Milan CIA station chief Robert Seldon Lady received the highest sentence, eight years in prison.
    The other 22 American defendants each got five years.
    The Americans were tried in their absence and their lawyers entered not guilty pleas on their behalf. They are considered fugitives from Italian justice. In the US, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said the Obama administration was "disappointed about the verdicts."
    Judge Oscar Magi, sitting in Milan, said he was acquitting five Italian defendants because Italy withheld evidence, contending it was classified information. Two of the Italian defendants were convicted as accomplices to kidnapping and received three-year sentences, which despite the state secrecy imposed, indicates that Italian officials were complicit.
    The verdict "sends a strong signal of the crimes committed by the CIA in Europe," said Joanne Mariner of Human Rights Watch.
    The Americans were accused of kidnapping Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, on February 17, 2003, in Milan, then transferring him to US bases in Italy and Germany. He was then moved to Egypt, where he says he was tortured. He was released after four years in prison without being charged.
    The trial is the first by any government over the CIA's extraordinary rendition programme, which transferred suspects overseas for interrogation. Human rights advocates say that renditions were the CIA's way to move the torture of prisoners to countries where it is permitted.
    The Milan proceedings have been a sore spot in relations between the United States and Italy. The CIA has declined to comment on the case, and Italy's government has denied involvement.
  2. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    "Disappointed"? What a douchebag. How about the adminstration grow a set and demand their release instead of letting the CIA hang out to dry? How about that?

    I'm no fan of CIA operatives working in such a manner, but holy shit, if they thought what they were doing was right--or they were ordered to do it, then WTF?? Notice the CIA refuses to comment. Seems to be part of the deep underworld of spookery.
  3. Inspector

    Inspector Subscribing Member

    INSPECTOR'S NOTE: These guys were not in Italy, and are at another location presently. They are now fugitives from Italian justice. Next Italy will file for an international warrant and demand the U.S. turn them over, if we can locate them.
  4. kttref

    kttref New Member

    Are you being serious?
  5. HuskyH-2

    HuskyH-2 G-Rap made me do it!

    How i read it I don't think the Italian government actually has them, no?
  6. Hawk19

    Hawk19 New Member

    Wonder if they'll actually get turned over?
  7. HuskyH-2

    HuskyH-2 G-Rap made me do it!

    No chance
  8. Inspector

    Inspector Subscribing Member

    Yes, I am being serious. Italy doesn't have these guys in jail. Their location, i suspect, is in the United States, probably on the job in an office. The Italian government with this conviction can ask the U.S. to turn over the now convicted individuals and we could extradite them. These guys are now fugitives from Italian justice and for that reason they had better remain in the U.S. for the rest of their lives. The Italian government, like the French, English, Irish, and many European governments, is facing strong political forces from within (or without depending on whom you listen to) that want the U.S. punished for "war crimes." Leaders supporting the U.S. have to get elected and in someway they have to make these people feel their voices are heard. These convictions are what those leaders can point to. The question now is whether or not they try to follow up on these convictions. If they do the potato will get hotter. If they don't then the demonstrations against the U.S. will turn to demonstrations against the Italian government.
  9. wheeler

    wheeler New Member

    As an aside, this is not the first time US and Italian authorities have argued over sovereignty in the context of terrorism. In 1985, US Navy SEALs and Italian Carabinieri (national police) almost traded gunfire on a tarmac in Sicily when a plane carrying Palestinian hijackers of the Achille Lauro cruise ship landed on a NATO airstrip on the island. The US wanted to take the terrorists into custody for the murder of an American passenger, killed on the cruise ship, while Italy believed that they were responsible for arresting the terrorists on what they considered Italian soil (NATO treaty notwithstanding). The Italians prevailed after a five hour diplomatic crisis.
  10. OfficerObie59

    OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    I guess I missed that bad.
  11. 263FPD

    263FPD Well-Known Member

    There are three chances of that,

    Slim, Fat and None.
  12. DJM1968

    DJM1968 MassCops Member

    Given the current Administration? :rolleyes:

    Were I a spook, I'd be making some travel plans...
  13. 263FPD

    263FPD Well-Known Member

    Given the current administration, that might be a very bad choice of word(s) Just sayin'

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