[Irish Wampanoag]

Has any municiple police department or college police department having trouble with requesting new Ch90 /Mass uniform citations from the registry? I have left messages since Septeber with a new request for citations books but no response. I was wondering if this was being experienced by other department. Thank You in advance!

 

[Mikey682]

A little birdy told me Bridgewater State College was recently denied books.

 

[Irish Wampanoag]

Attention: Community and State Colleges The registry of Motor Vehicles are not issuing State Colleges any Chapter 90 violations anymore. They are allowing the Sate Colleges to finish the rest of their citations they already have. Spoke with RMV and that was the information they gave me.
I hope to get specifics on why!

 

[fscpd907]

Bridgewater State did get new books from the RMV

 

[Mikey682]

I have a feeling a CC or SC officer stopped the wrong son/daughter of the RMV Administrater :musicboo:

 

[Irish Wampanoag]

I have a feeling a CC or SC officer stopped the wrong son/daughter of the RMV Administrater :musicboo:

You maybe correct in this assumption!!

 

[mpd61]

We just got a shitpile of brand-new "K"s Will definately last us until they resolve the issue!
:wink:

 

[EsxPD319]

We just got a $#@& load of the new "M" series citations from the RMV.




Ed

 

[ArsonLT]

I have reliable information that Bridgewater State College PD has there new CH90 books in hand........and don't believe that there will be any problems obtaining them in the future.

 

[mtr111]

I'm not sure about other college departments but Bridgewater State College does have thier C90 books. Sounds political as with anything in this state...

 

[kdk240]

I know Bridgewater State getting their Ch. 90 books was not political.
They have an excellent Chief who made a stink to the Registrar, because they have ch 90 and the registrar admitted that to him.
After some more coaxing, the books were on there way.
No politics, just a good administrator fighting for what his officers need in order to do their job.

 

[Macop]

Amen

 

[Irish Wampanoag]

I spoke with RMV last week and this was the excuse given!

Sir we can not issue new ch90/uniform citation because you have a Director and not a Chief in charge of your department. Apparently there has been an internal memo written to RMV staff to exclude re-issuing citations to state college and community college police department who have a director rather than a chief governing body of said police department.

 

[Macop]

What a bunch of Morons. What difference does it make it doesnt say that in the law regarding Ch 90 for colleges or universities if they have to have a chief or Director. You should not let that sit man, fight it. FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE!!! lol, good luck.

 

[PearlOnyx]

I'm no law buff, but I believe that there is something somewhere where it says that ticket books must be issued by "the Chief." While I can't see there being any really big deal about a chief as opposed to a director, anyone know if there have been any rulings where tickets have been overturned on this difference? This could have caused the internal memo. This issue parrallels the issue in Commonwealth v. Baez where it was brought up that the ticket book was issued to the Deputy by the Sheriff, not a chief. Unfortunatley, the SJC refused to rule on this technicality.

 

[bpd145]

PearlO...

I believe you are right and to take it one step further, I believe it is also stated that citation books are only issued to 'Police Chiefs'. An instructor at my academy told our class of a problem that surfaced in a couple of the Southern Massachusetts counties where the sheriff officers were handing out citations. A few appeals were heard and the judges wanted to know where the citation books were coming from. The instructor told us that the Sheriff was not authorized to issue same.

Pretty credible instructor too. Lives on Owack Street.

 

[Mikey682]

Cant a chap 90 criminal app be substituted by a regular summons form?

 

[tomahawk]

How do troopers recieve their ticket books? There is no 'Chief Trooper', he is the Colonel aka Superintendent...

-Mike

 

[dh18]

CHAPTER 90C. PROCEDURE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE OFFENSES

Chapter 90C: Section 1 Definitions

""Police chief'', the chief or the head of the organized police department of a city or town, the commissioner of public safety, the colonel of state police, the state superintendent of buildings, the chairmen of the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, such person as the trustees of the University of Massachusetts shall appoint as chief of the police officers appointed under section thirty-two A of chapter seventy-five, such persons as the commissioner of mental health may designate at each institution of the department of mental health, or as the commissioner of mental retardation may designate at each institution of the department of mental retardation as chief of the special police officers thereat appointed under section fifty-nine of chapter twenty-two C or the chief of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority police department.

 

[PearlOnyx]

To the best of my knowledge, no one has challenged a Sheriff's ability to issued ticket books to Deputies. It was brought up during Commonwealth v. Baez, however the SJC refused to issue a ruling on the issue, and further suggest that the legislature review the powers of Deputy Sheriffs. The legislature has never done so. So, as it is unless challenged, under Commonwealth v. Howe and Commonwealth v. Baez, Deputy Sheriffs may issue civil motor vehicle infractions. There is a more in depth conversation about this topic in the Sheriff's forum, if I remember correctly.