[SOT]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3057458a12,00.html

LOS ANGELES: California's attorney general wants to crack down on gun violence by laser-branding all handgun bullets sold in the state with tiny identification numbers nearly invisible to the naked eye.

The controversial proposal could open the way for the next major debate over gun control in California, a state that already has some of the toughest such laws in the United States.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer is expected to discuss his proposal at a meeting on gun crime today with Los Angeles Mayor Jim Hahn and a citizens group, an aide said yesterday.

Just think MA will be next.

 

[Jeep]

That will work well... so many gang bangers purchase their ammo legally.

 

[Guest]

Yup, another lame-ass idea formulated in the heads of politicians. :roll:

 

[dcs2244]

Just switch to a revolver: no brass left at the scene... :shock:

Another well thought-out proposal. :evil:

 

[SOT]

The slugs left in the victims will have the coding.

Just switch to a revolver: no brass left at the scene... :shock:

Another well thought-out proposal. :evil:

 

[MVS]

I can see it now.. Someone swipes a box of YOUR ammo and kills someone. The numbers comeback as sold to you :shock:

 

[Jeep]

I would imagine that the engraving on the bullet would have to be pretty deep, so as not be obliterated by gun barrel's rifling.

 

[dcs2244]

Sorry, SOT, I just figured that 'bullets' was lemming for 'cartridge', as they use the two terms interchangeably. I wonder how survivable the markings would be, given bullet deformation/fragmenting...even more so for un-jacketed bullets... :?

 

[SOT]

Well they tested a whole 75 of them and 74 of them could be read...so I guess that's proof positive that they perfect enough to be the basis for a criminal trial. Yeah right.
These guys are asshats.

Sorry, SOT, I just figured that 'bullets' was lemming for 'cartridge', as they use the two terms interchangeably. I wonder how survivable the markings would be, given bullet deformation/fragmenting...even more so for un-jacketed bullets... :?

 

[HousingCop]

They were probably shooting them into a tank of water to keep the numbers identifiable. Shooting them into brick, cinderblocks, wood, humans etc, distorts or shatters the round. Maybe they should make a small tag and imbed it into the round, sort of like a fortune cookie. This way, the ME can get a chuckle when he digs the round out of somebody's skull. Just a thought for Ahhhnold to ponder.

 

[SOT]

Here's their website

http://www.ammocoding.com/testingresults.php

They also make this

http://www.ravensforge.com/

 

[mpd61]

I think Ahhnold should move quickly on this from a fiscal $$$ waste perspective. I mean really.....................
Like criminals wont learn to just buff the numbers out or defeat them somehow. Or just get ammo out of state or steal it?
:roll:

 

[csauce30]

Just to add my input...Here are a few of LA's GANG only statistics for this year...This is just a small sample...Keep in mind that theres 416 KNOWN gangs in LA with KNOWN membership numbers of 46,187. Now add the rest of the state of California...and you get the idea.

Taken from LAPD.

http://www.lapdonline.org/general_i...tics/gang_stats/2004_gang_stats/04_08_sum.htm

Gang Homicides...209
Gang attempt homicides...501
Felony assaults...1686
Attacks on PO's...43
Robbery...1520

These statistics are gang related only. As of October 2, 2004, the city has had 410 homicides total. Not to mention the 10,674 robberies.

With numbers like these...Im having a hard time believing that laser printing bullets will stem the tide of violence. Maybe try something more proactive to stop the crime... :shock: :evil:

 

[Killjoy]

Maybe they can also make knives with laser-branded break-off blades so that ME's and police can trace these back to owners........I'm sure they will all be legally purchased with the trace card filled out in full.