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Boston University PD and Medical Campus SSPO

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BUPD:

Job Description
The Boston University Police Department is currently seeking individuals who are academy trained and who have police experience for this position of police officer. Officers at the Boston University Police Department work in an urban university setting and provide police services for the university community. Officers proactively patrol, respond to calls for police service, investigate crimes reported to police, assess public safety, educate the community on crime prevention and security assessments. Current police officers are trained in the Municipal Police Training Academy or its equivalent, hold a Special State Police License and are sworn Suffolk County Deputy Sheriffs.

Required Skills
Requires: Must be municipally trained and certified, eligible candidate must possess a valid drivers license, have the qualification to posses a license to carry a firearm, pass an oral board interview and background examination, psychological examination and a pre-employment medical examination.

BU Medical Campus NEIDL:

Job Description
Provide a safe and secure environment for the National Emerging Infectious Disease Laboratory (NEIDL). Provides access control utilizing established procedures and technology. Carries out operational functions such as: respond to requests for assistance, respond to emergency and disaster situations. Conducts patrols of NEIDL facility/grounds and respond to calls. Reports and documents all deficiencies and violations. Ensures all policies and procedures set forth for the protection of BUMC and the NEIDL staff, students, employees and assets, are enforced and complied with.

Required Skills
Associate's Degree in Criminal Justice and 6 months to 1 year of customer service experience required. Must have completed a Massachusetts Reserve Intermittent Police Academy or higher level academy training and be appointable as a State Special Police Officer, upon hire. Must successfully pass all background examinations in accordance with criteria defined in Massachusetts General Law - Chapter 22. Must possess a Massachusetts Driver's License. Must meet all requirements for and successfully complete a full time Massachusetts Special State Police Officer Academy. Must be able to possess and maintain a Massachusetts License to carry firearms


BU main campus and Medical Campus are both hiring, but have separate police forces. Looks like the Medical Campus is looking for several officers. I hear good things about both departments, don't know many specifics though
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BUPD ran their own exam a year or two ago, had a good showing from what I hear. The problem is most people do not have the full academy that take the test. Most likely an economic decision to try and hire those who have already gone through the academy, instead of spending money on a test then sending someone who may or may not graduate an academy.
If the local cuts come, as many expect, BU and various other college/university PDs might see an upsurge in full academy trained people applying. Not to mention that free tuition that every school (EXCEPT ONE I can think of) is a very attractive perk for those with kids approaching college age.

Does anyone know why BUPD stopped running their own exam ? I always thought that was the right way to do it and wished my department would follow suit.
The excuses MY chief gave were cost and that you can't base qualifications on an exam. I don't disagree with either argument, but isn't an exam a nice thing to START with as opposed to 'who do YOU know?"???
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I don't disagree with either argument, but isn't an exam a nice thing to START with as opposed to 'who do YOU know?"???
It usually comes down to that anyway, might as well get it right out in the open.
I put my app. in about 2 months ago for the fulltime police officer position over there, haven't hurd anything yet. Anyone know whats going on over there?
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Does anyone here know if they do yearly inservice training at the Hospital?
I would assume that they do, if they want to remain compliant with SSPO guidelines and the cert unit.

The job seems tedious and sounds like your treated like the red headed step child of BUPD if you work there.
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I have recently applied to the NEIDL job and am awaiting hearing for an interview. My question to the penut gallery is what is the overall view of the job? Can you pull shifts at the regular hospital since it is the same Union? And do you think it is a better job than the college I am at now? We are an armed state school with Chapter 90 power and cruisers and some fun toys but the morale is terrible. I will keep my school anonymous so I don't rock the boat. Thanks guys.......
I have recently applied to the NEIDL job and am awaiting hearing for an interview. My question to the penut gallery is what is the overall view of the job? Can you pull shifts at the regular hospital since it is the same Union? And do you think it is a better job than the college I am at now? We are an armed state school with Chapter 90 power and cruisers and some fun toys but the morale is terrible. I will keep my school anonymous so I don't rock the boat. Thanks guys.......
I would think that the NEIDL job would entail fixed posts, access control, and perimeter security. If that sounds OK to you than grab the money. If not, than I would seriously rethink it. Seems to me like it would be a tough transition but everyone has different wants, needs, and priorities.
I have recently applied to the NEIDL job and am awaiting hearing for an interview. My question to the penut gallery is what is the overall view of the job? Can you pull shifts at the regular hospital since it is the same Union? And do you think it is a better job than the college I am at now? We are an armed state school with Chapter 90 power and cruisers and some fun toys but the morale is terrible. I will keep my school anonymous so I don't rock the boat. Thanks guys.......
You gotta go with what truly works for you. Morale is low where I am but I ain't leavin' at this point in my life. newguy makes a fantastic point. I will not knock the NEIDL job since: a) I don't work there and have no clue what it's like; b) Don't rag on other jobs if I can help it; c) Respect that there are different strokes for different folks.

But you've got more to look at on quiet nights and I'm sure you can always find something to keep you occupied with the freedom that space allows. No gun and low morale are not the be alls and end alls for staying or leaving a job. There's a lot to factor in.

I love my job and hate it all at the same time. I'm not leaving partly because I at least know what my job has and offers and I'm comfortable with it. Sometimes the grass is greener, sometimes not. Explore the differences and talk to someone in the know to see if you really want the change.
And do you think it is a better job than the college I am at now? We are an armed state school with Chapter 90 power and cruisers and some fun toys but the morale is terrible. I will keep my school anonymous so I don't rock the boat. Thanks guys.......
Jeezum!
Stay put buddy! You're pretty much a gun-totin, traffic stoppin, drug-fightin, real deal where you're at. You are ten minutes from work in the lightest traffic east of Worcester. You left once before and bounced right back. You want to spend more time away from home in traffic and more gas $$$? You will not do half of what you perform in your job now. STAY PUT!!!!
I have recently applied to the NEIDL job and am awaiting hearing for an interview. We are an armed state school with Chapter 90 power and cruisers and some fun toys but the morale is terrible.
Are you serious? Gee everything seems well at the U/Mass and most State Colleges. Framingham isn't armed, so that narrows it down...
IMHO the grass is always greener, but why give up being a cop for a security position? Will you really be happy in the end?
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The Biolab is slated to contain the worlds deadliest pathogens such as Ebola, Ricin and Anthrax. The officers assigned to this area are the NEIDL officers who's starting pay is about $17hr. Top rate is $27hr for employment past 43 months. They are categorized as Public Safety officers. These officers are graduates of an SSPO academy and are assigned to that one building located at 620 Albany St. They have lots of in-service training and also complete the required classes on the MSP online academy website.

The officers assigned to the Medical Campus are also Public Safety Officers. Both belong to the same Union and both are Boston University employees who share the same benefits like tuition reduction, 403B etc... The officers at the medical campus are responsible for the interior and exterior of 35 buildings and it's surroundings. Approximately half of these officers have arrest powers. The starting pay is about $15hr. Top rate is $22hr for employment past 43 months.

Boston University Police are located at the commonwealth avenue campus and are also assigned to patrol the exterior of the medical campus and to assist the Public Safety officers when necessary. BUPD has there own Union. Starting pay is $18hr and top rate is $27hr.

Currently, both Unions and management are awaiting an arbitrator's decision on the precise role both BUPD and BUMC officers. In a nutshell, BUPD initiated the grievance by contending they are the primary law enforcement agency and thus the officers at the medical center should not have any arrest powers. This decision should be rendered sometime in December or early January.

Attached below are the two contracts that represent the three entities.

http://www.bu.edu/hr/policies_procedures/agreements/agreements.shtml
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Is BMC still using boston specials or are they all still state specials?
They are currently using both but any new hires have to be able to qualify as a candidate for the SSPO.
Currently, both Unions and management are awaiting an arbitrator's decision on the precise role both BUPD and BUMC officers. In a nutshell, BUPD initiated the grievance by contending they are the primary law enforcement agency and thus the officers at the medical center should not have any arrest powers. This decision should be rendered sometime in December or early January.
So what's the next level (if any) after one side isn't pleased with the arbitrators decision. In any event sounds like a big mess that will foster an "us and them" relationship.
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The honest answer is nobody knows. It depends on what the arbitrator's decision states and how it is interpreted by those involved. Chances are some clear distinctions will be made about respective roles and responsibilities but then again I have seen decisions that just leave you shaking your head. Time will tell.
I cannot take sides here. I've read/heard arguments on both sides and sometimes wonder what might happen at my job if we were to face a similar situation.

All I CAN do is hope both sides can come to an amicable agreement and learn to work together. More is gained from cooperation than battling for turf.

Except in the case of us v. terrorists. WIPE THE SCUM FROM THE EARTH.

sorry, politics crept into the thread.

I hope both sides can reach a compromise that suits all parties. Turf wars are counter productive.
I cant agree more turf wars are very counter productive especially when you open a two front campaign.
I cant agree more turf wars are very counter productive especially when you open a two front campaign.
Thus spoke Erwin Rommel in 1941. :D
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