I work for Boston Medical Center Public Safety. Your right it’s no BI from what I heard. We are really busy, good benefits, pay, and were union, and the tuition remission for BU is awesome. The down side is management and an ultra liberal hospital administration that feels you the officer is guilty until proven innocent. If you can get on MGH police I would go for that, but if you have to choose between MGH security and us you would probably get more experience with us.
I am new to masscops. I work at BMC for about 5 years now. I was in the same spot U R in. I had to choose between MGh or BMC. I interviewed with both. MGH was short and vague. BMC took 3.5 hours and gave me a tour of all the areas. As usual BMC was a nut house that day and that got me hooked. I saw more in the 45 minute tour than I could image.
I have applied to many Police departments, private security and government jobs while I have worked at BMC. Everywhere I have gone to interview the people know about BMC (formerly Boston City Hospital). even in Hooksett NH. They laugh and can't believe I have worked there so long. BMC is a stepping stone for people searching law enforcement careers. We have had many officers leave for other departments federal or small towns. The officers who have left still miss the madness that happens everyday at BMC.
We have two campuses. Old city Hospital aka ZOO and the BUMC aka country club. the good aggressive officers who are not affraid to pull out a drive up GSW, fight physic patients, or fight the drug dealers in our lobbys or patient rooms stay over at the city aka Zoo. For the others who want to be customer service officers and check Student IDs for 8hrs and be looked down on by students and staff, that is the place for them. I must admitt I like to go to the country club once and a while to relax.
The amount of training, experince, and street knowlege we obtain from working at BMC is incredible. Yes we have mandatory OT and are treated like crap but when U work hard and stop the drugs, thefts and help out a employee or patient in need of POLICE services it is great.
Those are the reasons why I would pick BMC over MGH. I have other reason I will post after your reply.... Like I have attend a number of IHHS functions and MGH looked down on me or other officers like we are second class citizens.
As I Have over 5 years in at MGH I can tell you we deal with everything you just described on a VERY frequent basis. My first shift at MGH I wrestled with 6 different patients in the first 90 mins - yeah its a "ZOO" too. Several MGH folks have looked (interviewed) with BMC over the years but going there would mean a steep pay cut (unionized scale) and loss of time off.. a huge step back. MGH is 100% non-union - and they treat us pretty damn good.
As far as the IAHHS functions, don't take it personal but most guys hate going to those. Most of the guys from MGH come from security management positions, Law Enforcement, etc. and the stuff covered at IAHSS is so BASIC... well you figure it out. I know you guys at BMC are just as crazy (business-wise) as we are and I tip my hat.
We only get forced overtime if you're on the overtime list. As I work for a PD part-time, I am not on the list and have not worked OT there for more that 2 years (since taking myself off the list)... I rather work a detail at my leisure for $36/hr than to be forced when you're exhausted after already working a busy shift for $24-$25/hr, then go home and get 5 hours off sleep and do it all over again.. and the Hospital OT is so spotty you can go several weeks without getting any so it's unreliable $$$. There was a point where I got forced 3 times in 1 week...
Why would I pick MGH over BMC? PAY, time off, benefits, perks, treatment, training, etc.. MGH has various locations other than just the Main Hospital. There are Health Centers in Revere, Chelsea, Bunker Hill, and Charlestown that are manned by our Officers. There are also several other off-site locations we respond to. There are more than 70 Officers assigned just to the Main Campus (Hospital) and over 120 department wide.
Something to factor in are the relative benefits of both places, especially if you have a family!
I have no specific info on either place relative to benefits, but can offer some thoughts based on my Wife's employment (was Brigham & Womens Hospital, now she is a Partners Healthcare employee) and their benefits. Partners owns MGH, BWH, Dana Farber and a number of other hospitals in the area. Each has its own specific benefits package, but you can get some ideas from the following:
- BCBS Medical, dental, and eyecare - when my Wife joined BWH in 1998 the sum total for family plan cost us something like $15.00/week!! When she became a Partners employee (her group supports all the hospitals, so they brought them all under one umbrella) our current cost for this is now $176.00/wk BUT they reimburse $122.10/week towards that cost so that our net cost is currently $53.90/week.
- Days off - She started with 30 days off/year (this included holidays and sick time as "personal time"). System is such that you don't have to call in and lie that you're sick to take a personal day. Since she's been there >5 years I think she now gets something like 35 days/year.
- Cell phone discounts - Not widely known but any Partners employee (and that should include MGH as a fully owned subsidiary) gets 23% discount on SprintPCS each month. They also have lesser discounts with other cell phone providers (I heard 13% with Verizon). [Worth noting: MANY employers have cell discount plans (or % discounts) that aren't "published" (not just the base rate cheapie plan usually posted by HR). I found a list for SprintPCS on www.sprintusers.com forums after we were paying full fare for ~ 6 months.]
- When she was a BWH employee they used to get a week's pay as a bonus at Christmas time plus 1/2 day off to go shopping (or home early). Neither is the case for Partners employees.
I'm sure that there is a lot more that I'm unaware of, and like I said, MGHs benefits are likely to be somewhat different vs. what BWH or Partners does, but not grossly so.
Hope this gives some food for thought and is helpful.
We have 5 health plans 2 tufts and 3 BMC.......... BMC is cheap I believe a family plan is $35 a wk. BUT you have to go to BMC to receive health care and it cost extra to go to an outside PCP. I have the Tufts PPO which is the top of the line health insurance we have I am paying $90 a wk (family). that covers just about everything and no referrals.
Out of the 90 officers we have there are only 11 officers whom have BMC health plans. That is pretty low.......the others have Tufts.... The reason why i have tufts is that I will NEVER bring my family into BMC to receive health care UNLESS they are shoot, stabbed or in a bad MVA. I am one of the aggressive officers on campus. I make alot of arrest and try my best to keep the drug dealers, whores, and dirt bags out of the hospital. Bringing in my family to the place I work is not safe. We would not know who was sitting next to us or who would want to start a fight with me while I was with my family. Nevermind all the questions I would get from my little kids about the drunks and heroin addicts passed out in our lobbies.
I go to MGH for my PCP because they have a clean campus..... But I have had some problems with homeless at MGH while I was a patient. Most of the crimnal element travel between MGH and BMC and use their stolen goods bewteen point A to B then steal again.
with that said I am one of the crime prevention officers for Public Safety and BMC If any other department would like to share or investigate thefts or criminal activity please PM me or email me at [email protected]
Be safe........ Oh Ya Every other department has better uniforms than BMC....
Well Jane if U start in 2 weeks welcome aboard.......... It is the summer time so we willbe busy with the GSW and SW's If U haven't worked in Level 1 trauma hospital U will see things tht are unbelievable.
If U are full time U will have a 3 week training program Co-ops 2wks I might be your FTO....... word of advice... Just keep quiet about prior jobs, Ask questions, and learn.... Because U will be thrown into the mix right away.
Good luck.... By needle proff gloves and make sure U get all your shots at OH&R during your first week.... Be safe
all the other BMC officers there goes another 40hrs of OT downt he drain..hahahahaha
For those who are interested in BMC let me share some of the benefits that officers receive. Top pay rate of over $20/hr. I have been employed there for a little over 5yrs and I receive 36 paid days off a year plus 10 sick hours a month with a max of 960hrs. The biggest perk is the 90% tuition remission for you or your family at Boston University because you are a BU employee. You also get discounted rates for membership at BU's new health facility on Comm Ave. You also can park for free at BU for a redsox game. Six health plans to choose from with family rates starting as lowa as $24 monthly to $82 monthly. A more than generous 403B plan which you can start immediately. Also, all benefits are calculated pre-tax. Shift swapping in same pay period which can allow you to work 3 days a week allowing you four days off. Overtime is available and ther have been only 36 drafts to fate for a department of over eighty officers. Average officer with benefits made over 56K last year. All members will receive a 3.25% wage increase July1, 2005. Union dues only cost $10.25 weekly. Any officer who has left always calls back to say they never realized how strong the Union was until they left. We are trained every two years by Tenable which is a professional unit specializing in Baton, OC, Handcuffing and verbal judo. Plus, the department trains each officer a minimum of 40 hrs in job related topics. Gotta go but wanted to let people know of these bennies . There are many more but I have run out of time.
basically we all work in the hospitals in Boston, which is very busy no matter where U go. Reading all these post I think we show pride in our departments and that is good. the arguement over BMC and MGH will go on just like the Yankees vs Red Sox. MGH U are the yankees.... hahaha
Any officers who takes the time to go through an acdemy and get a badge is waiting to get on a REAl police department and do some real work. The ones that are lucky to get on a REAl department good for them, but thank god we have MGH, BMC, where we the unlucky ones can make just as much as real cops. I haven't made less that 60K a year since I started working at BMC...
please do not take offense to my comments. Both MGH and BMC are great departments we just see things differently. And have different areas of the city to cover. By saying real cops BMC is not armed and I don't think MGH is... we carry everything but a firearm. Hey we just became Public Safety and we still have Security patches. hahaha And our uniforms suck White shirt with GRAY pants (unknown fabric but they are hot during the summer Freeze during the winter) Our department would kill for Blue uniforms. Be safe