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A man who stole a Salvation Army donation pot outside a store in Tucson, Ariz., was hit by a car as he tried to run away, police said.

Edward Sanders, grabbed the pot Tuesday and pulled it away after a short struggle with a 60 year old woman with Cerebral Palsy.

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As Sanders started to run away he was struck by a Honda sedan and captured by police.

The red pot and $53.97 were both returned to the Salvation Army.
 

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I love AZ; lived there for about a year while in the service. Nothing like a state with no carry conceal laws, but anyone can carry in public, with no LTC! I used to walk around with a Govt .45 hanging off my hip in full view and it didn't cause anyone to blink! Gotta love those cowboy laws!
 
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I love AZ; lived there for about a year while in the service. Nothing like a state with no carry conceal laws, but anyone can carry in public, with no LTC! I used to walk around with a Govt .45 hanging off my hip in full view and it didn't cause anyone to blink! Gotta love those cowboy laws!
Now imagine that in Mass, what do to think? Higher or lower crime rate?
 

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Sunny Arizona

A home own in Phoenix, Arizona saw an unknown male running away from his open garage with his drill. Home owner and his son get into their vehicle and chase the suspect around Phoenix.

At some point the suspect points a firearm at the father and son shoots the suspect twice, which caused the suspect to flip his vehicle. The suspected was "DRT" dead right there.

Phoenix Pd announced the next day the father and son will not face criminal charges because they acted in self-defense.

The law here in Arizona states in part, one can carry a firearm in public with out a permitt as long as it's secured and not concealed. If someone wants to conceal a firearm, they just take an approved firearm class, $$ and bam, they have a firearm. Usually in a few weeks.

I still do a double take when I see someone in public carrying a firarm on their hip.
 
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I went there back in 97 for Vacation, its a beautiful state. Ya gotta love the weather, the heat was great, nice and dry, the best kind. I went into a Walgreens or (something like that, right aid or whatever) there was a guy in line in front of me with his gun on his hip. At 1st sight is was a little nervy, but life is different down there (so it seemed).

I had a conversation w/ an officer who turns out was from MA. He said thats the norm down there, average citizens carrying guns on there hip.

I dont know what there crime stats are but I would imagine its possible a criminal might think twice knowing most citizens carry guns before they rob someone.

Not like here where most people dont carry and if they did and they use there guns,they would go to jail along with the criminal who attempted to rob them.
 

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A number of economists have visited this issue from an empirical standpoint. In 1997, John Lott and David Mustard from U of Chicago wrote a paper in the Journal of Legal Studies which argued empirically that, ceteris paribus, "shall issue" LTC/CCW states have less crime than "may issue" states. They run two-stage least squares regressions on county level data for violent crime, property crime, and total crime, taking account for demographic and economic variables (income, unemployment, poverty rates, racial, age, and gender make-up, etc.). Some economists have questioned Lott and Mustard's methods and results (see Black and Nagin (1998)), and others have defended their findings. If any of you guys are interested in this stuff, I can point you to a lot of interesting reading...

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I can't say for certain if we in Arizona have a lower crime rate than cities across America who have strick gun laws than Arizona, but it would be interesting to to find.

As for living in Arizona, It's OK. The housing market is cheap, 2500 Sq. ft home cost about $150,000, and the sun shines 300 days a year. Try and direct traffic for an hour in 115 degree heat. See how many cars you start to kick(2) because the drivers act as if they have heat stroke instead of you.

The only thing I'd like to see out here in Arizona, well besides watching the Red Sox play the DiamondBacks every year is the "brotherhood" I had experienced back East. Don't get me wrong, some officer believe in the "brotherhood" ( going out together, meeting families, etc) but most don't and that was evident with the sheriff's office I used to work for, every deputy seemed to be competing with each other. AT time this made working with other deputies like getting your *alls caught in your pants zipper.

The city department I work for now fosters more of a family setting and the officers tend to looking out for one another. Sorry for rambling on just wanted to give my perspective of how Arizona Law Enforcement is and how it could get better, I think.
 
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