Are Deputy Sheriffs LE
Funny I hear the same. :roll:shawnr76 said:From what I have been told, Deputy Sheriffs are LE. I only know of one area that is not and I believe it is Constables. From what I have been told, Alliance Security has more LE powers than that of the Constable. :lol:
Just kidding Hunter,
I couldn't resist.........No pun intended
I'm not sure if you are familiar with what training a lot of Deputy Sheriff's have. I'd say the vast majority of the have a full Corrections Academy plus the Reserve/Intermittent Academy which is not only enough to qualify them for an SSPO waiver it also adds up to somewhere around a total of 600 hours of training. Granted that still falls short of the approximately 720 hours that the SSPO Academy is up to now, but also factor in that like Pearl posted they usually spend 40+ hours a week working in the HOC or Jail (OJT has to count for something). Back on topic though the only Sheriff's Office I'm real familiar with has two totally separate Deputy Divisions Law Enforcement and civil Process, so yes the LED Deputies are obviously Law Enforcement (ie; Academy certified and most are either CO's or from another Department), and the Civil Division basically speaks for itself.RPD931 said:For the most part they are merely corrections as they often have less LE training than Campus Police Officers...
So would Constables be law enforcement? They enforce Capias arrest warrants issued by judges? Hmmm just curious.Officer Dunngeon said:Let's answer that question by figuring out what "Law Enforcement" means.
In the context of the term Law Enforcement, law refers to this definition:
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lagu, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse log law; akin to Old English licgan to lie -more at LIE
Date: before 12th century
1 a (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules (3) : COMMON LAW b (1) : the control brought about by the existence or enforcement of such law (2) : the action of laws considered as a means of redressing wrongs; also : LITIGATION (3) : the agency of or an agent of established law c : a rule or order that it is advisable or obligatory to observe d : something compatible with or enforceable by established law e : CONTROL, AUTHORITY
Pronunciation: in-'fOrs, -'fors, en-
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French enforcier, from Old French, from en- + force force
Date: 14th century
1 : to give force to : STRENGTHEN
2 : to urge with energy
3 : CONSTRAIN, COMPEL
4 : obsolete : to effect or gain by force
5 : to carry out effectively <enforce laws>
Since the term "Law Enforcement" covers such a broad variety of duties, responsibilities and actions, and regardless of what police powers Deputy Sheriffs in MA have, because there are definitions that can be applied to what exactly it is that they do, I would say yes.
Also, according to the above definitions, a mall security guard is a Law Enforcement officer. Do they enforce the rules, regulations, and laws of the mall? Yes. Do they apprehend shoplifters, in which shoplifting is a prosecutable crime? Yes. Do they make arrests? No. They are by no means police officers, but they are still in the same salad bowl of law and order.
Shame on the Public who voted for this Sheriff. Having a "few friends" doesn't get you elected... having thousands of people vote for you gets you elected... so, shame on the people who vote for hack' sheriffs.jimbo said:in Plymouth County the sheriff is currently defending himself in court for firing over 30 Deputies who supported his opponent in the election. he then turned around and replaced them with family members, pals and the leader of the local Democrat (aka:Commiecrat) group. the guys he fired had years of experience but were replaced with liberal democrat hacks - no way would i consider any deputy appointed by the plymouth county sheriff to be law enforcement. the k9 guys are good men, but most of the deputies get their positions by holding campaign signs.
MT1,masstroopers1 said:I noticed there wasn't any training listed in motor vehicle or criminal law, constitutional issues, community policing, domestic violence, motor vehicle crash investigation, juvenile crime, patrol procedures, intoxicated driver identification and investigation, speed measuring devices, auto theft, white collar crimes, civil / elder / handicapped rights, death notification, narcotics identification and investigation....