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If so, maybe your Chief or union should get on the phone with this guy and find out what his major malfunction is!!??

Tighter seat belt law urged for Mass.

by Elizabeth W. Crowley and David R. Guarino
Wednesday, May 28, 2003

Cops could soon have the right to stop motorists just for not wearing a seat belt under controversial legislation set for debate on Beacon Hill today.

Gov. Mitt Romney came out in favor of the primary seat belt law yesterday, saying the state and its residents can't afford the costs of a poor seat belt usage rate.

``I firmly believe that the commonwealth must do everything possible to prevent avoidable injuries to our citizens,'' Romney wrote in a letter to lawmakers.

The governor disputed arguments that the new powers could lead to an increase in police abuses, including racial profiling. He said the costs of health care, injuries and insurance premiums make unbelted drivers everyone's concern.

``It is fundamentally unfair to ask those taxpayers who wear their seat belts to shoulder the increased cost of medical bills of those who intentionally choose not to buckle up,'' Romney wrote.

Currently, police may only pull over and fine motorists for violating the seat belt law if they have been stopped for another violation. The ``primary enforcement'' bill, set to be debated in the House, would give police powers to stop a motorist merely for not wearing a seat belt.

A similar bill died in the House in May 2001 after passing the state Senate. Representatives debated the issue for hours, only to deadlock in a vote at 76-76, sending it down to defeat.

In his letter, Romney argues that the White House's proposed transportation reauthorization legislation also calls for $100 million divided by states that enact primary seat belt laws - and that Massachusetts could lose out on $10 million if the bill fails.

But many lawmakers oppose it, and promise a tough floor fight.

``The cops won't even have to lie and say your tail light was out to pull you over,'' said state Rep. James H. Fagan (D-Taunton).

Minority lawmakers are expected to argue that passing the law would allow racial profiling to flourish because officers could pull over anyone at any time.

State Rep. Michael E. Festa (D-Melrose) said it could be ``potentially mischievous'' for police officers.

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Re: Any Cops here from Taunton?

jsg2020 said:
``The cops won't even have to lie and say your tail light was out to pull you over,'' said state Rep. James H. Fagan (D-Taunton).

State Rep. Michael E. Festa (D-Melrose) said it could be ``potentially mischievous'' for police officers.
If that's not the pot calling the kettle black :up:

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Primary seat belt law vote

Even better... check out how your favorite state rep voted (below), and then write a letter, thanking them for throwing the $10 million in federal funding out the window! Tack a P.S. on about the per se law too, not that they will pay any attention.

-Mike ](*,) :crazy: :BM: :thumbdow:

A "yes" vote supports allowing police officers to pull over drivers solely because they are not buckled up. A "no" vote supports the current system of allowing police officers to cite drivers for not wearing their seat belts only if they are pulled over for other reasons.

The result was a 73-73 tie, which defeats the bill. The vote may be reconsidered on Thursday.


Christopher Asselin, D-Springfield -- N

Cory Atkins, D-Concord -- Y

Demetrius J. Atsalis, D-Hyannis -- Y

Bruce J. Ayers, D-Quincy -- Y

Ruth Balser, D-Newton -- Y

John J. Binienda, D-Worcester -- N

Deborah D. Blumer, D-Framingham -- Y

Daniel E. Bosley, D-North Adams -- Did Not Vote

Garrett J. Bradley, D-Hingham -- Y

Arthur J. Broadhurst, D-Methuen -- N

Scott P. Brown, R-Wrentham -- N

Stephen J. Buoniconti, D-West Springfield -- N

Antonio F. D. Cabral, D-New Bedford -- N

Jennifer M. Callahan, D-Sutton -- Y

Christine E. Canavan, D-Brockton -- Did Not Vote

Gale D. Candaras, D-Wilbraham -- Y

Mark J. Carron, D-Southbridge -- N

Paul C. Casey, D-Winchester -- N

Vincent P. Ciampa, D-Somerville -- N

Edward G. Connolly, D-Everett -- Y

Michael J. Coppola, R-Foxboro -- N

Robert Correia, D-Fall River -- N

Michael A. Costello, D-Newburyport -- N

Robert K. Coughlin, D-Dedham -- Y

Geraldine Creedon, D-Brockton -- N

Robert A. DeLeo, D-Winthrop -- N

Viriato Manuel deMacedo, R-Plymouth -- N

Paul C. Demakis, D-Boston -- Y

Brian S. Dempsey, D-Haverhill -- N

Salvatore F. DiMasi, D-Boston -- Did Not Vote

Paul J. Donato, D-Medford -- Y

Christopher J. Donelan, D-Orange -- Y

Carol A. Donovan, D-Woburn -- Y

Joseph R. Driscoll, D-Braintree -- N

James B. Eldridge, D-Acton -- Y

Lewis G. Evangelidis, R-Holden -- N

James H. Fagan, D-Taunton -- N

Christopher G. Fallon, D-Malden -- Y

Mark V. Falzone, D-Saugus -- Y

Robert F. Fennell, D-Lynn -- N

Michael E. Festa, D-Melrose -- N

Barry R. Finegold, D-Andover -- Y

Thomas M. Finneran, D-Boston -- Y

David L. Flynn, D-Bridgewater -- N

Gloria L. Fox, D-Boston -- N

John P. Fresolo, D-Worcester -- N

Paul K. Frost, R-Auburn -- N

William C. Galvin, D-Canton -- N

Colleen M. Garry, D-Dracut -- Did Not Vote

Thomas N. George, R-Yarmouth -- N

Susan W. Gifford, R-Wareham -- Y

Anne M. Gobi, D-Spencer -- N

Emile J. Goguen, D-Fitchburg -- Y

Brian Paul Golden, D-Boston -- Did Not Vote

Thomas A. Golden, D-Lowell -- N

Shirley Gomes, R-South Harwitch -- N

Mary E. Grant, D-Beverly -- Y

William G. Greene, D-Billerica -- N

Patricia A. Haddad, D-Somerset -- Y

Geoffrey D. Hall, D-Westford -- N

Robert S. Hargraves, R-Groton -- Y

Lida E. Harkins, D-Needham -- Y

Bradford Hill, R-Ipswich -- N

Reed V. Hillman, R-Sturbridge -- Y

Kevin G. Honan, D-Boston -- Y

Mark A. Howland, D-Freetown -- Y

Donald F. Humason, R-Westfield -- Y

Frank M. Hynes, D-Marshfield -- N

Patricia D. Jehlen, D-Somerville -- Y

Bradley H. Jones, R-North Reading -- N

Louis L. Kafka, D-Sharon -- N

Michael F. Kane, D-Holyoke -- Y

Rachel Kaprielian, D-Watertown -- Y

Jay R. Kaufman, D-Lexington -- Y

Daniel F. Keenan, D-Southwick -- Y

Shaun P. Kelly, R-Dalton -- Y

Thomas P. Kennedy, D-Brockton -- Did Not Vote

Kay Khan, D-Newton -- Y

Brian Knuuttila, D-Gardner -- Did Not Vote

Peter V. Kocot, D-Northampton -- Y

Robert M. Koczera, D-New Bedford -- N

Peter J. Koutoujian, D-Newton -- Did Not Vote

Paul Kujawski, D-Webster -- Y

Stephen Kulik, D-Worthington -- Y

Barbara A. L'Italien, D-Andover -- Y

William Lantigua, I-Lawrence -- N

Peter J. Larkin, D-Pittsfield -- Y

James Brendan Leary, D-Worcester -- Y

Stephen P. LeDuc, D-Marlboro -- Y

John A. Lepper, R-Attleboro -- N

David P. Linsky, D-Natick -- Y

Paul J. Loscocco, R-Holliston -- Y

Elizabeth A. Malia, D-Boston -- Y

Ronald Mariano, D-Quincy -- N

James J. Marzilli, D-Arlington -- Y

James R. Miceli, D-Wilmington -- N

Charles A. Murphy, D-Burlington -- N

James M. Murphy, D-Weymouth -- N

Kevin J. Murphy, D-Lowell -- N

David M. Nangle, D-Lowell -- N

Harold P. Naughton, D-Clinton -- Did Not Vote

Robert J. Nyman, D-Hanover -- Y

Thomas J. O'Brien, D-Kingston -- N

Eugene L. O'Flaherty, D-Boston -- N

Shirley Owens-Hicks, D-Boston -- N

Marie J. Parente, D-Milford -- N

Matthew Patrick, D-Falmouth -- Y

Anne M. Paulsen, D-Belmont -- Y

Vincent A. Pedone, D-Worcester -- N

Alice H. Peisch, D-Wellesley -- Y

Jeffrey D. Perry, R-Sandwich -- Y

Douglas W. Petersen, D-Marblehead -- N

George N. Peterson, R-Grafton -- N

Thomas M. Petrolati, D-Ludlow -- N

Anthony Petruccelli, D-Boston -- N

William "Smitty" Pignatelli, D-Lenox -- Did Not Vote

Elizabeth A. Poirier, R-North Attleboro -- N

Karyn E. Polito, R-Shrewsbury -- N

Susan W. Pope, R-Wayland -- N

John F. Quinn, D-Dartmouth -- N

Kathi-Anne Reinstein, D-Revere -- N

Cheryl A. Rivera, D-Springfield -- Did Not Vote

Michael J. Rodrigues, D-Westport -- Y

Mary S. Rogeness, R-Longmeadow -- Y

John H. Rogers, D-Norwood -- Did Not Vote

Michael J. Ruane, D-Salem -- N

Michael F. Rush, D-Boston -- Y

Byron Rushing, D-Boston -- N

Jeffrey Sanchez, D-Boston -- N

Angelo M. Scaccia, D-Boston -- N

John W. Scibak, D-South Hadley -- Y

Mary Jane Simmons, D-Leominster -- Did Not Vote

Frank Israel Smizik, D-Brookline -- Y

Theodore C. Speliotis, D-Danvers -- N

Robert P. Spellane, D-Worcester -- Y

Joyce A. Spiliotis, D-Peabody -- N

Karen Spilka, D-Ashland -- Y

Harriett L. Stanley, D-West Newbury -- Y

Thomas M. Stanley, D-Waltham -- Y

Marie P. St. Fleur, D-Boston -- Y

Ellen Story, D-Amherst -- Did Not Vote

William M. Straus, D-Mattapoisett -- N

David B. Sullivan, D-Fall River -- Y

Benjamin Swan, D-Springfield -- N

Kathleen M. Teahan, D-Whitman -- Y

Walter F. Timilty, D-Milton -- Y

Stephen A. Tobin, D-Quincy -- N

Timothy J. Toomey, D-Cambridge -- Y

David M. Torrisi, D-North Andover -- N

Philip Travis, D-Rehoboth -- N

Eric Turkington, D-Falmouth -- Y

James E. Vallee, D-Franklin -- N

Anthony Verga, D-Gloucester -- N

Joseph F. Wagner, D-Chicopee -- Y

Brian P. Wallace, D-Boston -- Y

Patricia A. Walrath, D-Stow -- Y

Martin J. Walsh, D-Boston -- Y

Steven M. Walsh, D-Lynn -- Y

Daniel K. Webster, R-Hanson -- N

Alice K. Wolf, D-Cambridge -- Y

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Annnnnnnnd while you're at it, someone from Dracut get your rep a damn watch, so she can get to work on time!!!

Rep. Colleen Garry, D-Dracut, who said she would have supported the measure, was late getting to the chamber and did not cast a vote. Her request for a special exception to be recorded after the machine was closed a request that is typically granted was denied after at least two lawmakers objected.

Can you tell I was disappointed by this vote or what? :(

-Mike :DP:

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Like Fagan said we still have 1300 other reasons to stop em. Wonder if he would be kind enough to provide that list.

As for the OUI .08 per se law passing I don't see that happening either.
Let me see, mostly attorneys voting to take money out of there pockets, I seriously doubt it.

OUI per se will probably bite the dust too. Just more money the feds can give to less liberal states!

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Where did you get the info on how they voted :?:

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Anybody have the specs on the law? Stiffer penalties for not taking the test?

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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Penalty for refusing raised from 120 to 180 days; penalty for failing lowered from 90 to 30 days. That's all well and good, but if the idiot refuses and gets a quick trial, Ch90-24 provides for return of his license with a NG finding. Another example of the defense attorneys in our legislature setting themselves up for a big payday...What happened to refusing the test and losing your license regardless??

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I believe this is the latest text of the "important" part related to .08 and the courts...

Paragraph (e) of section 24 of chapter 90 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 1988 Official Edition, is hereby amended by striking out the second and third sentences and inserting in place thereof the following sentence:- Evidence that the defendant failed or refused to consent to such test or analysis shall be admissible against him in a civil or criminal proceeding and shall be admissible in any action by the registrar under paragraph (f) or in any proceedings provided for in section 24N.


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Great Job Tommy Hawker (er. Mike)

Looks like a new aspect of the law that will help out a little bit. Thanks for pointing it out!
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