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"…And so it begins…"

What better quote than that from Ambassador Kosh to describe our current predicament (h/t LC Draco at the Rott)? I am trying to be optimistic but am preparing for the worst. Let's have a glim at where we now stand:

Freedom of Speech: Given the president-elect's proclivity for silencing any and all critics, whether broadcast or printed, I think demonstrates what we can expect for the next four years. Too, the willful complicity of the "main stream media", such as it is, to promote his agenda (whatever that may turn out to be, he said with tongue firmly planted in cheek) will further obscure the truth of what is being done to us. Senator Schumer is already addressing the so-called fairness doctrine, comparing talk radio to pornography, which needs to be controlled. Make no mistake, this legislation will reappear and will further address the Internet and satellite radio. The only message that will get out is the one the government approves of.

The Second Amendment: Look for as much regulation as they can get away with: "assault weapons" and large capacity magazine bans to name a couple. The recent SC ruling regarding the 2nd puts a kink in their more grandiose plans, but look for them to find ways around that decision so as to disarm you. Perhaps, given the mood of a third of the population, "national security" will be invoked and firearms confiscated without a yes, no or how-de-do to the takings clause.

Economics: "Redistribution of wealth" and "nationalization" of whole industries are the watchwords of the Era of Change. These goals were touted BEFORE the election. The rapid consolidation of banks over the past decade has played into the Marxists hand: we now have partial government control of these institutions. How long before this control is consolidated and broadened? What's next? Oil? Coal? Pharmaceuticals? Health Care? I'll wager "all of the above".

Elections: Please. See "Chicago Machine".

Resistance may be futile but resist we must. We owe our current discomfort to a group of intellectually lazy (or dishonest), morally bankrupt, plain old lazy or "entitled" citizens for whom the burden of self-government became too onerous. Samuel Adams said it best:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, - go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"

Take due notice thereof, and govern yourselves accordingly.
 

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THE MEDIA WON

They created Obama. They could have destroyed him in a minute if they had wanted to. Instead they promoted him, covered for him and used anything they could to discredit his opponents.

What lies ahead

One really has to ask the obvious question: If Obama's economic policies work so well, why isn't Detroit a paradise? In 1950, America produced 51% of the GNP for the entire world. Of that production, roughly 70% took place in the eight states surrounding the Great Lakes: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York.

The productive capability of this small area of earth staggers the imagination. Virtually everything that rebuilt the industrial bases of Europe and Japan came from those eight states. Cars, planes, electronics, machine tools, consumer goods, generators, concrete - any conceivable item manufactured by industrial humanity poured out this tiny region and enriched the world. The region shone with widespread prosperity. People migrated from the South and West to work in these Herculean engines of industry. The wealth, power and economic dominance of the region at the time cannot be overstated. Nothing like it has existed in human history.

Yet, a mere 30 years later, by 1980, we called that area the "rustbelt" and it became synonymous with joblessness, collapsing cities, high crime, failing schools and general hopelessness.

What the hell happened? Obama happened. Of course, not Obama personally but rather the same ideas that Obama espouses. What those ideas did to the Great Lakes states, they can do to the entire country. What did they do wrong?

First, unions: Without any serious economic competition, unions could force virtually any salary, benefits and pensions they wished from manufactures. Worse, however, they could set work rules and conditions, effectively dictating the organization of a business and what technology, processes and methods it used. Since increasing productivity, by definition, means doing more work with fewer people, unions froze companies into the methods used in the mid-1950s and refused to let them adapt. Companies rode high for over 15 years, but by the late '60s they faced increasing competition and needed to change and adapt. The unions blocked this.

In the end, however, strong widespread unions turned out for workers to be merely a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Unions got workers in factories better wages, but the people who built the workers' houses, cars, consumer goods and stocked their groceries also had strong unions and the price of everything went up. Strong public-sector unions kept taxes high and public productivity low, so workers' taxes went up. By the time they paid all the increased cost of union labor in everything they consumed, the unions gave them little if any real increases in income.

Second, invasive government: People who grew up during the New Deal and WWII believed that government could solve almost any problem, and they supported high taxes so that government could fix society. Unfortunately, the supposed benefits of an expansive state, good schools, solid public infrastructure, low crime, etc. failed to materialize while zoning and land-use restrictions drove up housing cost and taxes and crime destroyed small businesses. Strong public-sector unions blocked tax cuts and reforms that could have saved them.

By the early '70s the states that once served as the industrial engine for the entire planet began to fall apart. Then came double-digit inflation and the energy crisis (both caused by leftist policies). By 1980, the industrial heartland of America lay in virtual ruins. People called it the "rustbelt" in analogy to the "dustbowl" of the Great Depressions. Even today, nearly 30 years later, the region lags behind the rest of the country in job creation and is steadily losing population to internal migration.

It can happen just that fast. A worker who entered the factories in 1950 at the age of 25 saw 20 good years before things looked bad. At 45 he saw repeated layoffs, and by 55 he was out of a job and his children had little hope of finding one.

Obama clearly plans to try to extend the rustbelt model to the rest of the country. "Card check" will let unions use intimidation to control workers. High taxes on capital gains will slow investment. Environmental regulation will starve workplaces of electricity and mandate inefficient modes of production. Great new bureaucracies will arise to restrain the freedom and creativity of the people.

Obama has no concept of business as a creative and experimental endeavor. On some deep unconscious level, he assumes that material wealth is something akin to a natural phenomenon for which no group of humans can take credit. Therefore, he sees distribution as the only serious economic issue and ignores how politics interferes with the actual process of wealth creation. We may soon be living in a repeat of '70s and looking back at the years 1984-2007 as a golden era.

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The Sheeple followed the Media Shepard.
 

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Could it be that the reason BO will not release his birth certificate to the public is because his real father is....

Jor-El!!!!!!!!
 

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Obama will certainly save us money immediately, just think; the man can simply walk over to Europe or Asia to give speeches as "President of the World" no more need for Air Force 1! It's an Obamanation and we're all living in it.
 

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He has already boosted the economy....firearms sales have reached a record number...
 

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A little note that I recieved today in the snail mail from
masscopguy with an Obama pin.

Once an a-hole always an a-hole you will never change
masscopguy and you can quote me on that.
 

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Where's the outcry from the Palin fans?

Its been in the news that many of the McCain staffers are throwing Palin under the bus and blaming her for the campaign results and now they are saying Mccain and she never spoke much throughout the process.

I know this forum seems largely against obama but I thought those that supported McCain/Palin would come out against this. I guess we see where their true concerns are. Looks like the republicans are having internal riffs locally and nationwide. i wonder why...

Beo-
 

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Obama campaign workers angry over unpaid wages

Indianapolis - Lines were long and tempers flared Wednesday not to vote but to get paid for canvassing for Barack Obama. Several hundred people are still waiting to get their pay for last-minute campaigning. Police were called to the Obama campaign office on North Meridian Street downtown to control the crowd.
The line was long and the crowd was angry at times.
"I want my money today! It's my money. I want it right now!" yelled one former campaign worker.

Full Story: http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=9299280

Bamalot: Obama Drafts Star-Studded Short List for Cabinet

President-elect Barack Obama has drafted a star-studded short list of cabinet candidates, with political heavyweights Caroline Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Colin Powell and John Kerry among the most notable names being eyed by his transition team.

Possible Picks for Obama Administration

Illinois Democrat Rahm Emanuel has already accepted Obama's offer to be the next White House chief of staff, reports NBC.
The President-elect is strongly considering Robert F. Kennedy to be the head of the Environmental Protection Agency and is weighing Kennedy's cousin, Caroline, for the position of U.S. ambassador to the United Nations -- a move that would please Sens. Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy, Politico reported.

Full Story: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/elections/national/Bamalot_Obama_Drafts_Star-Studded_Short_List.html

Something else to think about

Black Pope could follow Barack Obama's election, says US archbishop

Richard Owen in Rome

The election of Barack Obama as the first African-American US President could pave the way for the election of the first black Pope, according to a leading black American Catholic.
Wilton Daniel Gregory, 60, the Archbishop of Atlanta, said that in the past Pope Benedict XVI had himself suggested that the election of a black pontiff would "send a splendid signal to the world" about the universal Church.

Full Story:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5097668.ece
 

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"I want my money today! It's my money. I want it right now!" yelled one former campaign worker.
Today in front of the campaign HQ, Jan 20, 2009 in front of the treasury...
 

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beowulf, the 'Rockefeller', or 'country club' Republicans are trying to destroy her for 2012...it's conservatives versus "we're-not-democrats-but-we-really-are" republicans (like John Kennedy Feingold McCain) for the soul of the GOP.
 

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Good observation, Kate...they haven't been since at least 2001, and probably earlier if you take into consideration the way the Republicans went to the Dark Side after they took control of the House. As far as conservatives in the election, Governor Palin is kind of a conservative, but more a populist in the mold of Harry Truman. Both were just regular folks; Harry the haberdasher and Sarah the fisherman. In light of FDR's health, they replaced VP Wallace, who was an out-and-out Communist, with Truman as they didn't expect FDR to make it to the end of his term. The party was just as dismissive of the haberdasher as the GOP was of Sarah. You can see how it worked out for Harry. Sarah would have been just fine if she had to step up to the plate.
 
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