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A&B on a P.O.

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In regards to the "municipal" element of A&B on a P.O., how do the courts interpret the charge as it pertains to campus police in your area? Is it generally accepted, or do they challenge that you are not officers? Just curious.
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I used to work for a hospital in Boston and we were sworn deputy sheriffs and had a case where I charged A+B PO with other numerous charges and the judge turned around and said because I am not a full time police officer the charge is being dropped!!!!! I looked at my badge and it said police and I looked at my patch and it said police and I work 40 hours a week and I know I was not a full time municipal cop but still I was a campus police officer. I just don't get it we are all doing the same job whether you are working for a town, city, hospital,college,or where ever you work if you have police written on your patch and badge I think the courts should recognize A+B on a PO for every police officer out there.
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Lets throw dog poop on that Judge, and hope that he's still alive, right MPD61?
:lol:
Ive gotten all my ABPO charges through BMC. I have herd horror stories about one particular Boston Lt, (Chinese, Guy) who refuses to let them through. He did try it on me once and I told him to change the 1/1. He wouldnt do that and I had no problem with BMC.
Oh him, yeah he's on channel 50 and there's only 10 channels :D

But District One under Mr O'Rouke does not like outside agencies. But I found out many moons ago, it's a small world.
Deputydog522";p="51597 said:
I used to work for a hospital in Boston and we were sworn deputy sheriffs and had a case where I charged A+B PO with other numerous charges and the judge turned around and said because I am not a full time police officer the charge is being dropped!!!!! I looked at my badge and it said police and I looked at my patch and it said police and I work 40 hours a week and I know I was not a full time municipal cop but still I was a campus police officer. I just don't get it we are all doing the same job whether you are working for a town, city, hospital,college,or where ever you work if you have police written on your patch and badge I think the courts should recognize A+B on a PO for every police officer out there.
Unless you worked for a public hospital (municipal or state hospital), you were an employee of a private institution. Having been sworn in as a deputy sheriff or SSPO or anything doesn't make you an employee of that the Sheriffs department or the State Police. The charge is a&b on a public employee, not police officer.....
michaelbos";p="51976 said:
Oh him, yeah he's on channel 50 and there's only 10 channels :D

But District One under Mr O'Rouke does not like outside agencies. But I found out many moons ago, it's a small world.
Mike,

You should have got him plastered at the FOP lodge back when you had the chance!
:lol:
As it was said before, if you really want the POS to spend a night in jail, just charge for regular A&B, arrestable in presence.
DC813";p="51994 said:
Deputydog522";p="51597 said:
I used to work for a hospital in Boston and we were sworn deputy sheriffs and had a case where I charged A+B PO with other numerous charges and the judge turned around and said because I am not a full time police officer the charge is being dropped!!!!! I looked at my badge and it said police and I looked at my patch and it said police and I work 40 hours a week and I know I was not a full time municipal cop but still I was a campus police officer. I just don't get it we are all doing the same job whether you are working for a town, city, hospital,college,or where ever you work if you have police written on your patch and badge I think the courts should recognize A+B on a PO for every police officer out there.
Unless you worked for a public hospital (municipal or state hospital), you were an employee of a private institution. Having been sworn in as a deputy sheriff or SSPO or anything doesn't make you an employee of that the Sheriffs department or the State Police. The charge is a&b on a public employee, not police officer.....
It depends on the court. This does stick in some courts.
HousingCop";p="50743 said:
Many moons ago while I was a rookie in Roxbury District Court, I witnessed Judge Redd tell a Boston cop that the A&B PO charge should be dropped and there should be no such law. He went on further stating that it's part of the PO's job.

The officer calmly stated that it's not in his job description to get whacked by a scumbag and it's not in the Judges job description either. So who was he (Redd) to make laws from the bench? Wow, what a set of balls on that old timer. He retired soon after but I did tell him I enjoyed his reply immensely.

I think if a campus PO can arrest under state statue, he or she should be covered by the ABPO statue as well.
RDC has changed, it goes now for NU. Or I should say, that judges are accepting it
Well, just had one Saturday night (big surprise) and the fine young gentleman who felt he was being wronged..."You can't arrest me! I'm a -------- College student", should be arraigned in Hadley...which pretty much has the same judges as Northampton anyway. Well have to wait and see I guess.
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