Discussion in 'Civil Service' started by Rob720, Aug 1, 2014.
Did you even take the 2013 test?
You strike me as the kind of guy that keeps hoping to win the lottery, but always forgets to buy the ticket.
So from what I've read.. it sounds like everyone has had a tough time on the 2015 CS. I received a 93 and have Vet status.
I'm not putting my eggs all in one basket (I'm taking every test from the non-CS towns/ Hopkinton PD, Walpole, and soon North Attleboro)
Any advice on what else I can do to get my "foot in the door"? Should I self sponsor in the police academy?
I know most of you guys want Massachusetts because that's where you all live, but have you guys considered Connecticut?
You can go to www.policeapp.com and POSTC: Employment Opportunities in Connecticut Law Enforcement Agencies for the listings. There are currently 13 departments hiring in Connecticut.
Connecticut does not have a statewide civil service process. When I was hired, I took a test in March and I was in the academy six months later. However, state law requires police officer candidates to take a polygraph test. Connecticut has the highest salaries for police officers in the region, with starting salaries for entry-level officers up to $61,000. Unlike New Hampshire, Connecticut certifications transfer to Massachusetts after two years.
It may not as LA, but its close to home. And its definitely better than waiting around for Mass Civil Service.
You haven't read much here, have you?
To be fair, his situation is completely different than anyone else's here. Didn't you know he was special?
I assumed you were talking about your test results from 2013. Because on this site, and on mass.gov, it has been mentioned numerous times that the list for this test will be released on November 1st. So your question was either referring to the 2013 test, or the hundredth time someone has asked when the list will come out. IT'S ON MASS.GOV! I'm starting to think people are doing this on purpose.
when is the list actually established ?
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Don't waste your time with a non cs town if you don't have an academy.
Hey man, I got the results, and it said to temporarily check. When I checked, the last update said some day in October after I got my results. Was curious if that meant anything.
No need to get upset. If you didn't want to answer, then don't.
Temporarily check? What does that even mean? And the update comes from civil service decisions/vet status updates. I expect you to get your head on a swivel, son. This is not a weakend retreat. I expect you to pay attention to detail. I will not tolerate anything less than perfection.
Now line up for a brown eye inspection.
So I haven't got any e-mails about my score yet...am I supposed to call them and ask for my score? Also, does anyone know of/work with the Methuen, MA/Lawrence, MA police department in particular to know how their hiring processes differ from others? Thanks
Definitely call, you should've recieved a score by now. I know methuen hires a lot of reserve officers and then hire from that group for full time positions. Good way to get your foot in the door. You'll need a reserve academy tho.
But just so you know, methuen and Lawrence have different lists, so you can only be on one of them.
New Hampshire although a seemingly more fair of a process, is still full of nepotism. Before I got on, I took the Conway PD test and got passed over, for a in town applicant. I was actually told this by the LT at my final oral board. He gave me the number to a neighboring department to give them a call, as they had a posted vacancy, but I was so pissed off that I threw it away.
Londonderry, I took the test crushed the PT and written and got passed over. Never got a letter, never got a call never heard shit.
Manchester I took the test but got a job offer before I did the Poly.
Just remember NH REQUIRES a Polygraph for law enforcement positions. Its pseudo science at best and I would not like to rest my career on that machine or examiner.
To be fair to that department, just because they chose someone else, doesn't mean there was nepotism involved. It actually makes sense to choose a qualified candidate from that community because there is significantly less of a chance he's only using that department as a stepping stone (something they must see from the majority of mass applicants).
Same thing with Londonderry, the test was easy so a lot of people crushed it and the PT is pass fail.
This is a huge issue in Law enforcement. The problem isn't necessarily the prevalence of nepotism in the hiring process, its the perception of nepotism in the process. Policing is one of those fields that just happens to run in families. If a relative of yours is a cop, at some point in your life, you're going to seriously consider being a cop. Unlike most other fields, a high percentage of candidates come from LE families, which is no wonder a significant amount of new hires have a connection. Also, growing up with that role model, they're also probably more prepared for the process.
Definitely not saying "hookups" don't happen, but I feel as if it's the exception, and not the rule.
Thanks alot buddy, I'll give them a call tomorrow! Gotcha, so do you know how Methuen specifically works in terms of getting hired reserve? It is the same process through the Eligibility List getting plucked out and picked or am I able to apply for that directly?
Update: So I just got my results and I got a 75...unbelievable. But apparently according to this thread that might even be an average score compared to all the 80s people have received.. I swear there's no way I got any of the scenario questions wrong, even double checked everything after I finished through. For the lifestyle questionnaire I went through every single question and back to make sure I was exactly consistent with the questions asking a similar thing. Is there anyway I could dispute that, if so what do I even say?
There goes any hope for the next two years
By the way, I had this attached at the bottom of my e-mail. What does it mean?
"Chapter 31 section 22 of M.G.L General Laws provides that you may submit in writing a request for a review of the scoring of your employment and experience by sending an email to [email protected]"
Did you not read the thread? Go back a few pages...
scores this time were low, but not nearly low enough for a 75 to be average. But if your argument is "I swear I answered the questions right", you don't really have much of an appeal. No one left thinking they answered most of them incorrectly. People need to stop blaming the test/nepotism. Accept you scored poorly and figure out what you need to do to increase your score on the next test.
Don't be that guy, bro.
There's NO study guide available that people can utilize for the test. The personality section is complete bullshit, and everyone knows it.
There's no way to "increase your score" if you don't know how the test is scored.
Then learn how the test is scored. A lot of people have increased their score by choosing strongly agree/strongly disagree. That's just one tip, but there are plenty of tricks to doing better on tests. I just think it's better to look at yourself and figure out how you can improve your own situation, instead of claiming the test was scored incorrectly. A lot of people score in the high 90's every time, so the test is beatable.
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