The department that I started with in 1978 let you carry any .38 or .357 mag revolver as long as you loaded it with .38 RNL ammunition. Between 1978 and 1981 I carried a S&W Highway Patrolman with a 6" barrel, and then a S&W Model 67, 66, and 65. I don't remember in what order. Department change in 1981- 1981-1985 S&W Model 64 1985-1989 Ruger Police Service Six 1989 through about 2000 Glock 19 2000- present Glock 23.
I should have never got rid if my personal Glock. That was a true garbage eater. It would feed, extract, and fire the shittiest of reloaded ammunition without a complaint. I am not a lover of Glock, but I am fully aware Of how reliable mine was this was really also my first Semi Auto other then a 6906 that I literally kept for only a month. Fucking hated that POS. once I got that Glock, the transition was very simple. No levers other then the slide relapse to fuck with. I miss that ugly bastard of a gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You would have to do it in MA. Not so sure that same sex marriage is OK in Austria. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Oh god...... 1983-86 S&W M-67- U.S. DOE 1989-1994 PR-24- VA Police 1995-1996 S&W M-15- Boston Special 2001-2006 S&W Sigma 40E- Massasoit Police 2006-present Beretta 92 Type- DOD
The man's a genius, the weapon is simplicity of design, one tool to take it apart and dead reliable. What's not to love?
One of my former co-workers has hands like knuckleball catcher's mitts (HUGE), and he never had a problem with the Glock 19, and every Glock is pretty much identical except for magazine width/length. When I qualified on the M1911A1 at Fort McClellan (I was in the last Army MP class to solely qualify on the .45, the next cycle did both the M1911A1 and the Beretta M9), we were warned about "railroad tracks", since the M1911A1 is especially prone to that, having the grip safety, so we were reminded to check our firing grip before live fire. Only a single case of railroad tracks among over 100 soldiers in my company.
They make an aftermarket beavertail called a gripforce adaptor that is meant to mimic the 1911 grip angle. Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
lol, I have several glocks a 23 and a 27 and have carried them for years off and on but I always go back to my 1911
S+W .357 Mag, Maine Beach Special 1989-90 Smith M64 - Boston Special 1992-97 SigPro U/Mass 2005-07 S+W M&P 40 current agency
S&W Model 15 .38 Special (USAF) 1990-1992 Beretta Model 92 9mm (USAF) 1992-1995 Sig 226 .40 S&W 2000-2007 Sig 239 .40 S&W (In plainclothes assignments) Sig 226 DAK .40 S&W 2007-2011 S&W M&P .45 .45 ACP 2011-Present
I am an unapologetic Glock aficionado. That isn't to say I don't have other weapons in my collection. Browning, S&W, Intratec and Colt. I'd like to introduce FN and HK but funds keep me from doing so currently.
I'm surprised you're still carrying a 9mm, especially this day in age in LA. I figured you guys would be on board the .45 train. But I'm sure it would be a logistical nightmare re-arming the entire department with brand new heaters.
A lot of folks went to the .45 right after the North Hollywood bank robbery. When Bill Bratton arrived, he brought the Glock with him. Recruits at the academy were issued .40. I'm old fashioned and cheap so I still have my Beretta. I shoot pretty well with it so I don't see a need to change. I'm just happy to have 16 rounds with my 9mm instead of 6 rounds with my .38. I also carry a 9 shot Smith & Wesson 9mm back up gun.
Gotcha. So does everyone have the option of keeping their originally issued duty weapon when there's a change? Or can everyone just carry different weapons?
9 got a bad rap after the 86 shootout, but modern 9 rounds are proven and effective manstoppers. If anything, they have the advantage of capacity especially in LE gunfights with a historically low hit percentage. Then again, .45 is the gold standard of knockdown... Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
Yes, we can keep whatever gun is issued to us. As foolish as it may be, I could still carry my .38 today. If I wanted to, I could also switch to any of the guns the Department approves of. The big thing out here right now is the Colt .45 (I believe SWAT carries the Kimber .45). There's a three-day school to attend before being allowed to carry it and then we have to qualify with it for six-months in a row. After that it's back to every other month like normal.
