Quinn Bill SJC Case

Any update on Boston's Quinn Bill case in front of the SJC? Any word on when a decision is expected???

No. Early Fall.

Sorry to be the pessimist, but I would guess the case for the unions will fall in a 5-2 decision for the city.

BTW, does any one know the names of the cases?

Obie,

The case is Adams v. City of Boston, SJC-2010 0447

Procedurally, it appears the SJC took the case from Suffolk Superior Court as one of first impression, with Justice Robert Cordy reviewing the case. From my research, it appears the appellate briefs have been submitted and case certified for arguments to be heard in front of the full court.

Sandulli & Grace have an update on their website from January 28, 2011 when the brief for the appellants was submitted to the court.

In their update, it appears there has been a favorable decision out of Middlesex Superior in an analogous case involving North Reading PD., which is good, but unfortunately isn't binding.

Full case name, link to Sandulli's site, and the appellate brief if anyone wishes to read it.

SJC-2010 0447

Daniel Adams, et al
Brian Albert, et al
Francis Armstrong, et al
Appellants

v.

City of Boston
Appellee

http://sandulligraceonline.com/?p=502

http://sandulligraceonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/adams-v-boston-sjc-brief1.pdf




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Should hear something this month.

The comments are typical....all the cop haters come out of the woodwork.

..and it's not good. Cities only have to pay 50 percent.

I posted earlier today the decision is out. Towns are not required to pay the State's share.

I have been saying this would happen for years!! Everyone kept saying, "No way, the city has to pay the other half".....,,,,

For all the guys and girls affected by this STOP DOING ANYTHING PROACTIVE and give the BARE MINIMUM on calls for service. If your City or Town wants to pay you half, give them half the work.

The public will say, "you knew what you were getting into when you took the job" and the response should be "I also knew what I was getting paid when I took the job."

For us Boston guys/gals, let's look at this decision this way....one way or another we are going to get parity (or pretty damn close) with the fire fighters. Whether it was going to be through the Quinn bill and a small raise or what not, at least now it will be all though the contract and unlike the Quinn, it will also affect our overtime rate and count towards our retirement.
This might be a blessing in disguise.
To our union, the ZERO's we took in lieu of the Quinn, which would of been about 3% a year, since we are getting 50% of what we negotiated, let's fight for the difference, IE: 1.5% per year of that contract (about 4.5%) immediate raise, prior to even negotiating this contract.

Nothing, including parity with the firefighters is a given. Remember the firefighters can do no wrong and police officers are HATED in this state.

as of right now our city does have to pay because of the language of the CBA. The city is on the hook as long as we have that language and as long as Gov Patrick doesn't sign another bill that destroys collective bargaining (like he did with health care and pension reform)

The state and the city of Boston each get 50% of all the $$$ from the written warnings you write in the future!

Not so fast, Most tickets get appealed so in the long run it cost both the lemmings in a lost day of work or two and a four hour minimum for the judge appeal all for a $150 V. We still come out ahead. Four hours at least $160 in over time. Fuck em.

Until they somehow figure a way to take that from us ALSO!

My point is niether the court system nor our amazingly asinine governor will be behind us or our contract. They will find a way to stand behind all the, "Cash strapped" cities, towns, and the Commonwealth itself.

We never get court time for tickets unless it goes in front of a judge. The first hearing is done by a Sgt. who is in court all day.

So basically, the minimum Quincy citation is $75 with an automatic NR. Good to know.