Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero He has proven over and over again that he doesn't care about the American citizens. Our collective conscience, opinions, and ideals mean absolutely nothing to him. He doesn't care about real victims. He only cares about the "victims" that leech off the system as a way of life. He doesn't care about independent minded Americans. He cares about the dependent child-like residents who will support him because they are totally dependent on the system of handouts and bailouts that he hands out like candy.
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero You're right. Got the Idea while watching O'Rilley and reading a book about Gen. "Blackjack" Pershing. (What he did in the Philippines was pure genius.)
Ground Zero Mosque On The Move? NEW YORK (CBS 2) – There was a possible resolution in the works Tuesday night in the debate surrounding the proposed mosque and Islamic cultural center near ground zero. CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer has learned it looks as if the developers of the mosque may be willing to budge and move away from the Park 51 location where they originally planned the construction. So will the mosque be moving? Ground Zero Mosque On The Move? CBS New York- News, Sports, Weather, Traffic and the Best of NY
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero New York Gov Seeks Meeting on Ground Zero Mosque AP David Paterson expects to meet in the near future with developers of a proposed Islamic cultural center that would include a mosque near Manhattan's Ground Zero, but a key voice in the discussion denies to Fox News any plans to relocate. Church Destroyed on 9/11: What About Us? FOX FORUM: Incredible, Sinking Obama YOU DECIDE: Move Mosque to End Uproar?
AUDIO - Rep. Pelosi calls for investigation of WTC mosque opposition 8/18/10 - UPDATE 1: Speaker Pelosi has sent out a statement regarding her comments on investigating those who she beiieves may be funding the opposition to the mosque: AUDIO - Rep. Pelosi calls for investigation of WTC mosque opposition - Washington Times
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero As the country continues to go to Hell in a handbasket, liberal lunacy is sweeping the nation... I'm just waiting for the straw to break the camel's back. I'm betting it's only a couple of years of away, if that. The same type of men and women that said, "Fuck this place" and boated over to America, will be the same to start the revolution here.
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero Mosque debate divides Democrats, especially in NY By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Beth Fouhy, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 27 mins ago NEW YORK – As vulnerable congressional Democrats weigh how to respond to President Barack Obama's statements on Muslims' right to build a mosque near ground zero, those in New York and closest to the controversy are staying silent or scrambling away. Democrats control both Senate seats and 27 of the state's 29 Congressional districts, but analysts believe as many as eight House Democrats in the state may be headed to defeat this year. Republicans, hoping to ease Democrats' grip on the state, insist the economy remains the major campaign issue but say the mosque flap could also help move voters their way. From eastern Long Island to more rural upstate areas, House Democrats have been opposing the construction of a $100 million Islamic center two blocks from the World Trade Center site. More than 2,700 people died there on Sept. 11, 2001, at the hands of Islamic terrorists, and the wound remains fresh for many New Yorkers who are still traumatized by the attacks or who lost loved ones that day. Full Story: Mosque debate divides Democrats, especially in NY - Yahoo! News
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero yeah , saw this on yahoo this morning Poll: Growing number incorrectly call Obama Muslim - Yahoo! News it's obvious where his loyalties lie, yet the media stills tries to defend him. i'd say people are finally waking up !
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero The people who think obama is muslim are incorrect? Wonder where they got that idead? [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I"]YouTube- Re: Obama Admits Muslim Faith[/nomedia] I know they try to pass it off as a slip of the tongue or poor choice of words (he has a lot of those). But if the debate was about whether or not I was a muslim, I would not use the phrase "my muslim faith" to argue that I'm of Christian faith. I don't know maybe I would have said something more like "John McCain (et al) have never questioned my Christian faith" or "the higher ranking people in the party have never refered to me as being of muslim faith, which I am not." But, I guess that's why I'll never be in politics.
Rallies over mosque near ground zero get heated NEW YORK—The proposed mosque near ground zero drew hundreds of fever-pitch demonstrators Sunday, with opponents carrying signs associating Islam with blood, supporters shouting, "Say no to racist fear!" and American flags waving on both sides. Police separated the two groups but there were some nose-to-nose confrontations, including a man and a woman screaming at each other across a barricade under a steady rain. Opponents of the plan to build a $100 million, 13-story Islamic center and mosque two blocks from the World Trade Center site appeared to outnumber supporters. Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" blared over loudspeakers as mosque opponents chanted, "No mosque, no way!" Rallies over mosque near ground zero get heated - Boston.com
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero Fuck it, I've got a solution. Let them build the mosque at Ground Zero. In fact, let's rebuild the tower and we can put the mosque at the top floor. Surely the mooselimbs wouldn't risking killing their own. An added bonus, if they all don't show up one day...we know somethings up!
Re: Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero Ahhh, that's where you're wrong. They will become mytars for the cause.
Pat Condell is a British stand-up comedian -- but this video isn't comedic; it's pure truth, and utterly brilliant. We owe Mr. Condell a debt of gratitude for his profound declaration. This video explains the meaning behind the naming of the Mosque as "Cordova" house, a tribute to Islam’s first victory in Spain. It will be a war memorial to the Hijackers. Pat Condell on Ground Zero mosque: "Is it possible to be astonished, but not surprised?" - Jihad Watch
F**k Them F**k their mosque who the F**k does anyone think these savages aren't erecting a monument to their greatest victory ? fanatics only understand one thing, brute force ! our grandfathers knew this and that's why we used to bomb the s**t out of their countries till they got sick of dying or couldn't fight any longer. don't give these murderous f**ks anything other than the same they gave the innocent Americans that died on 9/11. their ruining Europe and they'll ruin this country too. backwards, camel f**king , sorry excuse for a human being , good for nothing turds !
I fear I maybe the only one who has this oppion, how ever… It is not the fault of the entire Muslim community that 9/11 happened. It is because 9/11 I joined the worlds greatest Army, and I have NEVER had hatred for the entire Moslem worshiping world. I have lived with an Emam in Afghanistan, I have studied the Koran, I have been exposed to the religion more so then most American Soldiers I believe. Maybe it is cause of this I have more “tolerance”. But I can not…and I will not…blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few mis fits. Was every German a Nazi? No. (but, did many Americans think so for a while, maybe) Now, I do believe that is a bit distasteful (the project I mean). The popular opinion of this specific religion has, historically, been misunderstood. I am a Catholic, yet a Chaplain Assistant, sworn to support ALL Faith groups regardless of my oppion. I am a Solider in today’s Army, whose employer for the past 9 years has been involved in the reconstruction and support of two primarily Muslim countries. I have profound respect for this religion. Would I build a Mosque around Ground Zero? No, I would not. How ever, will I sit here and blog “FU*K CAMEL FU*KERS” and damn the whole religion? NO I-WILL-NOT. As a NCO, how could I teach Soldiers how to respect these people? How could I, myself, respect these people if I allowed myself to become filled with hate? If we hate them, we lose. It is a new concept we have never encountered before. Only people who have been down rage will understand that last statement. For all you Christens, do you know that they (Muslims) believe in the miracle birth of Jesus Christ? How about the FACT that the Koran has a whole chapter dedicated to Mary and Jesus? I was stunned myself. Ok, reading my rant, I have now remembered the point I am trying to get at. Don’t approve of the Mosque? I do not as well, only do to the area of where it will be built. How ever, it is not the fault of the entire group of followers. Freedom of religion, that’s one of the million things I, and all vets fight/have fought for. DO-NOT-FORGET-IT. For those of you who are LEOs, I do not believe you would treat a victim any different should they be a practicing Muslim. I hope you understand what I am trying to say and understand where I am coming from.
"Whose side are you on [Javert]... Don't you love your country?" [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VHKpGJX29s"]YouTube- Full Metal Jacket Peace[/nomedia] "It's a hardball world son, we've go to try and keep our heads until this peace craze blows over."
I understand what you are saying and respect your opinion. However, it is the radicals that are using their mosques for planning sessions where they determine how they will commit genocide against the west. And, no I don't think genocide is the too strong of a word or too fine of a point. The ultimate goal of radical muslims is to eliminate anyone and anything who does not follow their beliefs. Their actions cast a shadow of suspicion on anyone who proclaims to be a muslim. Now maybe it's because the radicals who want to destroy our culture, our society, our families are the only ones who are regularly speaking out. Where are the non-radical followers of Islam? Why am I not hearing them speak out on this topic? Could it be because they are also afraid of these terrorists? I'm not going to debate the Nazi party & radical Islam. I think we can all agree that the similarities are numerous. The difference; however, has been in our response. But let me ask you, is there a shrine to the Nazi party in Israel? Is there a shrine to the Japanese at Pearl Harbor? I've never been to Israel, but I don't recall seeing one in Honolulu. The idea of building a mosque near ground zero is offensive not because we hate all muslims, because we don't. It is offensive because it is akin to planting a flag on conquered territory. It is offensive because our freedom of speech is already being diminished. One can not speak out against the mosque without being accused of being anti-Islam. One can not form a logical, well thought, fact based argument without being shouted down. It is offensive because it is not about freedom of religion. If it were, then the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox church, which was destroyed by the falling towers, would be allowed to rebuild. But apparently in this love thy enemy pc world, freedom of religion doesn't apply to you if you are Greek Orthodox. Sorry guys. It is offensive because they have chosed to dedicate this "cultural center" on 9/11/11. Really? They chose the 10th anniversary of the attacks for their dedication? Why? Because this day of mourning for America is a day of triumph for the people who want to destroy us. It is offensive because we are expected to show respect, sensitivity & understanding to others, but they are not expeced to show it to us. If at any point in time, someone came forward and said that they understood where we are coming from or that they would move the site out of respect to those who suffered and lost because of the attacks; then, I would be a lot more sympathetic. But they haven't. And they haven't because they just don't care about anyone who is not just like them. I just took a look at Google Earth. It appears that the Assata Islamic Center is approximately 1.4 miles (as the crow flies from Ground Zero) or 2.8 miles (8 miutes) per the directions. Why do they need to build another "cultural center" by ground zero? Why is it necessary to build another "cultural center" less than 3 miles from the orginal? Because it is about conquest. It is about superiority. It is about showing us that they won. This is not about a mosque or "cultural center" or whatever you want to call it. This is about an entity that has declared war on America & American citizens being allowed claim victory. It's about a wound that will never completely heal for many Americans. It's about a scar on the landscape of lower Manhattan. And, it is about a total lack of respect not only for those who were directly impacted by the cowardly attacks, but also for those of us who will always remember exactly what we were doing the moment we watched or heard as our lives and the lives of our children were forever changed. Oh, and as for the comments about Jesus. Don't forget Jesus was Jewish. So no matter how you try to spin it, you will never convince me that these fanatics are big JC lovers. Honestly, I doubt I'd find any WWJD? bracelets if I looked on their wrists.
History Hound, I couldn't agree more. Building Mosques on Sacred Sites of Defeated Enemies a Symbol of Conquest :: Hudson New York
The religion of peace has perfected the gaff known as professional victimhood. Besides beheading people, killing innocent people, spreading hate and placing blame on everyone except themselves, it is what they do best. MUSLIMS: Never before has an organization demanded so much of so many and offered so little in return.
I heard a great quote on the radio today from Dennis Miller- love him or hate him, this sums up how I feel: That Muslims can build a mosque at the WTC tells you everything about America. That they WILL build it, tells you everything about Islam.
Utah senator backs NYC mosque Cites Belmont Mormon temple One of the nation’s leading Mormon elected officials has cited the battle over a Mormon temple in Belmont in arguing that Muslims should be allowed to build a mosque near ground zero. Senator Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, said mosque proponents “have every right’’ to carry out their plans in New York, just as Mormons had a right to build their temple, despite neighborhood opposition. “I have a tendency, when it comes to religious liberty issues, to always uphold the rights of legitimate churches and legitimate religious groups to be able to meet and to build their mosques or their chapels or their cathedrals on property they own, and I will fight for their right to do that,’’ Hatch said, speaking to a FOX News reporter in Utah. “I remember when the Belmont, Mass., temple was going up . . . the local people got up in arms,’’ he said. “They didn’t want a Mormon church there to begin with. They couldn’t stop that, but then they tried to stop the steeple with the angel Moroni.’’ Full Story and Video; Hatch backs Muslims on planned NYC mosque - The Boston Globe
