How bad is your districT court?

Discussion in 'Shop Talk' started by Meat Eater, May 2, 2012.

  1. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    Yup, and I trust my source implicitly.

    Again, at least you made it to a motions hearing. I've been inside that cesspool exactly once in the last 3 1/2 years for a criminal proceeding (hearing or trial). It's absolutely farcical.....making arrests is an absolute waste of time and effort, because unless it's getting shipped up to superior court in Dedham, it's getting CWOF'ed, pled-out, or dismissed.

    Last year I had a probation surrender hearing in Dorchester Court, and I was amazed as the judge sent one person after another to the house of correction for violating their probation. I even looked at the court officer's patch to make sure it didn't say "Lairt Truoc fo eht Htlaewnommoc" because I thought I was in Bizzaro World, compared to QDC.
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  2. SinePari Needs more complaints

    Is that the case law referenced in Scheft's PACE handout?
  3. GMass Supporting Member

    That's my suggestion....
  4. USM C-4 MassCops Member

    So glad I moved...

    Forrest County Justice Court:
    Wednesday is contested traffic day. Call the name 3 times, no show.
    All the officers with no shows stand in front of the judge, get sworn in.
    County Attorney asks "Do each of you swear the offenses set forth in your citations occurred as stated on the citation, in your presence and within Forrest County?"
    We all say "Yes" like good little po-leeces.
    County Attorney says "Your honor, move for a guilty verdict on all cases."
    Judge agrees, bangs his gavel, and we're done.
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  5. 263FPD Administrator

    Rule 1. I don't take it personally

    Rule 2. Most of the time, I plain don't give a fuck.


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  6. LA Copper Subscribing Member

    I agree with Rule No. 1. My Rule No. 2 would be:

    2.) They're all just job security.
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  7. 263FPD Administrator

    That's my rule 3




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  8. MaDuce MassCops Member

    Go to work, do your time, go home, and don't expect the fruits of your labor to amount to nothing is what's it's coming down to. Like shoveling shit against the tide.
  9. csauce777 Supporting Member

    Not much different here in the traffic aspect. If you appeal and then don't show, you're found responsible.
  10. 263FPD Administrator

    Although I am sure that I may have lost a couple of ticket appeals in the clerk's hearing, I have never lost one in front of a judge.


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  11. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    One thing QDC isn't bad for is traffic appeals.....I had a magistrate's appeal where I simply didn't remember writing the citation, which I admitted. The magistrate said "In my 20-plus years here, I've seen this officer in this room a handful of times. If he wrote you a citation, you deserved it. I find you responsible".
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  12. grn3charlie No! My teeth are real. See?

    Just like when an officer lies, thier reputation in court affects future testimony. This is what happens when you have a good reputation. Nicely done! My favorite part is "If he wrote you a citation, you deserved it."
  13. LawMan3 Moderator

    I got tired of lookin at "distric court" in the thread title, so an additional T was added to districT.

    Perhaps I shoulda axed the OP if it was iight to change da title :rolleyes:
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  14. Foxy85 MassCops Member

    You guys don't have a "Court Officer" that goes in for everyone's citations? Or are you dating yourself, back when every officer had to appear for his own magistrate appeals?
  15. 263FPD Administrator

    I write very few mine tix. So when mine make it in from of the judge, they're all good.


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  16. LA Copper Subscribing Member


    Here on the west coast, if someone fights a ticket, it goes right to traffic court (and a judge, not a magistrate) and we as officers have to go as the "prosecution." No such thing as court officers out here, although I like your system better, that way we wouldn't have to go to court on a day off.
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  17. Deuce screw you...

    Too many to recount. Here's my last two:

    1. Female judge, female defendant. Judge: "I believe the testimony of the officer, but I'm going to find the defendant not guilty'".. I did not stick around for the douche's response to my "why fucking bother".. No 4 hrs for Deuce so not happy..

    2. At the end of both of our testimonies, it was quite clear to all the defendant was caught in a lie, but he brought his lawyer. So the judge says he'll take both arguments "under advisement" and notify the defendant via mail.. Yah, polite way of saying "hey you're a lawyer, I'm a lawyer, wink wink, fuck the cop"... No 4 hrs for Deuce again....

    Getting a lot of crosswords done....
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  18. 263FPD Administrator

    How the fuck arent you getting your 4?


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  19. Jeepy MassCops Member

    Thank God above for the Second Amendment.
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  20. adroitcuffs Subscribing Member

    For awhile, my shift was Sun - Tues & every other Weds; traffic court was always on Friday morning. Any time a smartass driver would say, "I'll see you in court!", I'd reply, "Glad to be there 'cause it's all overtime pay for me!" We only got a 2 hour minimum, but most of the time court would only last about 30 minutes for me because the defendant either didn't show (automatic guilty) or would see me there and ask to change their plea. :D


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  21. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    They have someone from traffic do the initial appeals for most citations, but if it's a high-value civil citation (the amount would pay the officer's OT plus a profit) they'll have the issuing officer go to the magistrate's hearing. The guy I mentioned above was drag racing plus some equipment violations, so the total fine was something like $600.
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  22. LA Copper Subscribing Member

    Once I got there I didn't mind the cash overtime because I always found traffic court to be much more entertaining than criminal court, although I'd still prefer to be doing other stuff on my day off.
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  23. Herrdoktor MassCops Member


    This.

    The only time I can have someone proffer for me is circuit court plea agreements.

    If I had someone stand for me during a traffic appeal the judge would issue a show cause.
  24. Herrdoktor MassCops Member

    Also traffic and criminal court is all done at the same time.
  25. Herrdoktor MassCops Member

    This shit is fucking insanity and shows a failure on the part of the prosecution imo
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