Herman Cain for President

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  1. SgtAndySipowicz Supporting Member

    https://www.hermancain.com

    I like this guy a lot, and at this point he will be getting my vote barring unforeseen negatives about him.........
    SgtAndySipowicz, Oct 11, 2011
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  2. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

    Ive been listening to him off and on for a few years. He's on the correct side of most of the issues I care about (gun control, immigration, foriegn policy, welfare reform,against big govt,supports business)
    If it comes down to it I'll vote for whoever is opposing the breathing turd thats occupying 1600 Penn Ave but Id like to vote FOR a canidate rather then against.
    To those who claim he's too extreme to win I presnt you a list of moderates McCain, Dole,Bush and Ford....notice anything?
    justanotherparatrooper, Oct 11, 2011
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  3. LGriffin Verified Mother Führer...

    He's consistently talked a good game so i'm open to hearing more from him.
    LGriffin, Oct 11, 2011
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  4. HistoryHound MassCops Member

    The more I look into him, the more I like him. The only thing that makes me nervous is that he does seem to be saying all the right things. I know that probably doesn't make a lot of sense to most people because it should make me happy. I do like the guy. I'm just hoping his actions match his words.

    I stumbled across these clips the other day when I was looking for the WSJ interview he did. I can't stand these cackling hens, but I thought the interview was interesting. Their body language says a lot. Look at whoopi and what's her name next to her, they're leaning away from him like he has the plague.

    Herman Cain's Common Sense Stuns 'The View' - Herman Cain - Fox Nation
    HistoryHound, Oct 11, 2011
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  5. LGriffin Verified Mother Führer...

    Damn you, HH, for posting a clip from those wretched old hippies but I understand that it was necessary.
    Right out of the gate, "Babwa" threw him a shot and he served her a fat slice of humble pie when he listed his credentials.

    I'll take a "problem solver" over a "community organizer" any day but i'm concerned about Morehouse College and the lack of service in the military, which I believe should be a requirement for any leader charged with sending our men to war.
    Prominent Alumni | Morehouse College
    LGriffin, Oct 11, 2011
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  6. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

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    [TD="class: tbody1"]October 10, 2011
    South Carolina Republican Presidential Primary
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    Herman Cain leads the South Carolina Republican presidential primary with 26%. Cain is followed closely by Mitt Romney at 25%. Rick Perry is third at 15%.
    In July, Romney was leading with 25%, followed by Sarah Palin at 16%, Michele Bachmann at 13%, and Herman Cain at 10%.
    Among likely primary voters considering themselves to be Republicans, Cain and Romney are tied at 27% each, followed by Perry at 15%.
    Among Tea Party supporters, Cain leads with 35%, followed by Perry at 16% and Romney at 15%.
    Among those saying they are not Tea Party supporters or are undecided about the Tea Party, Romney leads with 33%, followed by Cain at 19%, Perry at 14%, and Ron Paul at 10%.
    Details from the survey of 600 likely Republican primary voters conducted October 5-10 can be found here.
    [HR][/HR]September 30, 2011
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    The highest quarterly job approval rating, 77%, goes to Jeanne Shaheen in March 1998. She is followed closely by Steve Merrill in June 1993 with an approval rating of 76%, and John Sununu in June 1983 with an approval rating of 71%. Lynch's highest approval rating to date was 68% in September 2006. Lynch's quarterly average is 52% approve compared to Shaheen's average of 53% approve while she was governor.
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    [HR][/HR]September 28, 2011
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    Mitt Romney leads among likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers with 21%. Romney is followed by Michele Bachmann at 15%, Rick Perry at 14%, and Ron Paul at 12%.
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    Among Tea Party supporters, Bachmann leads with 19% (down from 30% in July), Perry is at 14% (up from 3% in July), Gingrich and Paul are at 13% each, Herman Cain is at 10%, and Romney is at 6%.
    Among those saying they are not Tea Party supporters or are undecided about the Tea Party, Romney leads with 37% (up from 31% in July), followed by Perry at 15%, Paul at 11%, and Bachmann at 10%.
    Among those saying they will definitely attend the Republican caucus, Romney leads with 19% (up from 17% in July), followed by Bachmann and Perry at 15% each, and Paul at 14%. In July, 25% of definite Republican caucus-goers said Bachmann and 2% said Perry.
    Details from the survey of 600 likely Republican caucus-goers conducted September 22-27 can be found here.
    [HR][/HR]September 22, 2011
    New Hampshire Republican Presidential Primary
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    Mitt Romney continues to lead the New Hampshire Republican presidential preference primary. Romney, at 30% among likely Republican primary voters, is followed by Rick Perry at 13%, Ron Paul at 12%, and Jon Huntsman at 10%.
    Preference for Romney is virtually unchanged since a similar survey in July, but Perry is up 11 percentage points, Huntsman is up 10 percentage points, and Paul is up 8 percentage points from the July survey. Bachmann has lost 5 percentage points since the July survey.
    Romney leads among registered Republicans likely to vote in the presidential primary with 35%, followed by Perry at 13% and Paul at 10%. Among undeclared voters (independents), Romney leads with 19%, followed by Huntsman at 17%, Paul at 15%, and Perry at 14%.
    Perry leads among Tea Party supporters with 23%, followed by Romney at 21%, and Paul at 10%. Among likely Republican primary voters saying they are not supporters of the Tea Party or that they are undecided about the Tea Party, Romney leads with 38%, followed by Huntsman at 19%, and Paul at 13%.
    Details from the survey of 600 likely Republican primary voters conducted September 16-21 can be found here.
    [HR][/HR]September 21, 2011
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    A total of 41% of Americans say they approve of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president and 56% say they disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job. In August, 41% of Americans approved of the job Obama was doing and 53% disapproved. When it comes to Obama's handling of the economy, 37% of Americans approve and 60% disapprove. In August, 40% approved and 55% disapproved of Obama's handling of the economy.
    Among Americans registered to vote, 40% approve of the way Obama is handling his job as president and 57% disapprove. On Obama's handling of the economy, 36% of registered voters approve and 60% disapprove.
    Details from the nationwide survey conducted September 17-20 are available at The National Economy.
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    justanotherparatrooper, Oct 11, 2011
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  7. CJIS MassCops Member

    How can so many people still approve of Obama's Job performance?
    CJIS, Oct 11, 2011
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  8. right.as.rain MassCops Member

    Because they still get their welfare checks every month and their EBT cards still work.

    Sent from my ADR6300
    right.as.rain, Oct 11, 2011
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  9. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

    The big issue I see with Herman Cain relative to LEO's is he isnt a union guy and I know thats a big negative for alot of you.
    justanotherparatrooper, Oct 11, 2011
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  10. CJIS MassCops Member

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    [TD="class: esc-layout-article-cell"]Cain Soars as Republicans Hunt for Someone to Love BusinessWeek - ‎30 minutes ago‎



    (Corrects to remove reference to Selzer & Co. in sixth paragraph in story originally published Oct. 11.) Oct. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Herman Cain, a one-time pizza magnate and sunny-skies orator, is entering a new phase of scrutiny after a wave ...
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  11. MSP75 Masscops Addict

    He uses commonsense and so he usually is saying the right thing. I do not know if he is ready for the number one spot, yet. I would like to see a Romney/Cain ticket. Romney has many faults, but he is the best we have for 2012. He would be a great VP to start off with. If he chooses the right advisers and remains the ultimate decision maker, Cain would make a great leader.
    MSP75, Oct 11, 2011
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  12. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

    I'm just fed up and tired of the rinos
    justanotherparatrooper, Oct 11, 2011
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  13. kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 83K+Poster

    Herman Cain Biography
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    [TD="colspan: 2"]President and Chief Executive Officer of Godfather's Pizza
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    1986–2002
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    [TD="colspan: 2"][HR][/HR]Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City[/TD]
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    [TD]Burton A. Dole, Jr
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    [TD="colspan: 2"][HR][/HR]Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City[/TD]
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    [TD]Burton A. Dole, Jr
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    [TD]December 13, 1945 (1945-12-13) (age 65)
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    [TD]Radio host, columnist, businessman, politician
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    Herman Cain (born December 13, 1945) is an American newspaper columnist, businessman, political activist, and radio talk-show host from Georgia. He is best known as the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza. He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Cain's newspaper column is distributed by North Star Writers Group. He currently lives in the Atlanta suburbs.
    In January 2011, Cain announced he had formed an exploratory committee for a potential candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.[SUP][2][/SUP]
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    Background


    Cain was born and raised in Georgia by working class parents.[SUP][3][/SUP] He earned a bachelor's degree in Mathematics at Morehouse College in 1967, and while working for the U.S. Department of the Navy, a master's degree in computer science from Purdue University.

    Business

    After completing his master's degree, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King – a Pillsbury subsidiary at the time – managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another of their then-subsidiaries. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability. In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned to become CEO of the National Restaurant Association – a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry – where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's.[SUP][4][/SUP]


    Radio talk show

    Cain hosted The Herman Cain Show on Atlanta talk radio station News Talk 750 WSB, a CNN radio affiliate until February 2011 and serves as a commentator for Fox News Business and a syndicated columnist distributed by the North Star Writers Group. In 2009, Cain founded "Hermanator's Intelligent Thinkers Movement" (HITM), aimed at organizing 100,000 activists in every congressional district in the United States in support of a strong national defense, the FairTax, tax cuts, energy independence, capping government spending, and dismantling Social Security.[SUP][5][/SUP]


    Political activities

    Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan

    Cain has been cited as one of the primary opponents of the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton:
    The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate black entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo., last April. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way."[SUP][6][/SUP]Joshua Green of The Atlantic has called Cain's exchange with Clinton his "auspicious debut on the national political stage."[SUP][7][/SUP]


    2004 U.S. Senate candidacy

    In 2004, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate in Georgia, pursuing the seat that came open with the retirement of Democrat Zell Miller. Cain sought the Republican nomination, facing congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins in the primary. Cain and Collins both hoped to deny Isakson a majority on primary day in order to force him into a runoff.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] Collins tried to paint Cain as a moderate,[SUP][8][/SUP] citing Cain's support for affirmative action programs, while Cain argued that he was a conservative, noting that he opposed the legality of abortion even in cases of rape and incest.[SUP][9][/SUP] Cain finished second in the primary with 26.2% of the vote, ahead of Collins, who won 20.6%, but because Isakson won 53.2% of the vote, Isakson was able to avoid a runoff.[SUP][10][/SUP]


    Support for gold standard

    Herman Cain announced his support of the gold standard on a radio program in late 2010:
    "Yes I believe in the gold standard. We should have never gotten off the gold standard because when we got off the gold standard, that then allowed Congress to inflate our currency whenever they overspent. Now look at the mess that we have."[SUP][11][/SUP]
    However, in early 2011, Cain stated on his radio show that there was no need for an audit of the Federal Reserve.[SUP][12][/SUP]


    2012 presidential candidacy

    Main article: Herman Cain presidential campaign, 2012
    In 2010, "Cain addressed more than 40 Tea Party rallies, hit all the early presidential states, and became a YouTube sensation."[SUP][3][/SUP] In April, he teased the audience at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference about his being a possible 2012 presidential candidate by saying that there may be a "dark horse candidate."[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP] On September 24, 2010, Cain announced that he was considering a run for president in 2012 on the Republican Party ticket.[SUP][15][/SUP] "In December, he was the surprise choice for 2012 GOP nominee in a reader poll on the conservative Web site RedState.com, narrowly edging out Palin."[SUP][3][/SUP]
    Cain announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee on January 12, 2011 on the Fox News Channel's Your World with Neil Cavuto.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP]
    Cain supports a non-federally subsidized efficient economic stimulus, saying: "We could grow this economy faster if we had bolder, more direct stimulus policies," criticizing President Barack Obama's stimulus plan as simply a "spending bill" instead of meaningful stimulus through permanent tax cuts.[SUP][17][/SUP]
    In December 2010, Jonah Goldberg of the National Review wrote of Cain: "it’s hard to imagine him amounting to more than an exciting also-ran."[SUP][18][/SUP]
    In February 2011, Cain addressed the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).[SUP][19][/SUP] Ed Morrisey of the conservative website Hot Air said he "stole the show" and that some attendees were moved to tears by the speech.[SUP][20][/SUP] In contrast, AlterNet accused Cain of pandering to white conservatives and referred to him and other black conservatives as "garbage pail kids". Cain called the news website's attacks racist and condemned its "shameful behavior".[SUP][21][/SUP]
    After defending himself against accusations of racism, Cain provoked controversy when he specifically stated that he would be willing to discriminate on grounds of religion when appointing members to his Cabinet, were he elected President, refusing to consider candidates if they were Muslim, on the grounds that such a candidate may support Sharia law. [SUP][22][/SUP]
    After the May 5, 2011 Fox News sponsored Presidential debate, Cain was declared the overwhelming winner by controversial pollster Frank Luntz. According to Frank Luntz who has been censured by the National Council on Public Polls for mischaracterizing focus groups in the past, Herman Cain walked in with only one supporter, and walked out with a majority.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP]


    Personal life

    In 2006, Cain was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer in both his colon and his liver. Cain underwent surgery and chemotherapy following the diagnosis, and has since reported that he is cancer-free.[SUP][26][/SUP][/TD]
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    kwflatbed, Oct 11, 2011
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  14. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    Although I'm a veteran myself, I have to disagree with the military requirement. One of our greatest wartime Presidents, Franklin Roosevelt, never served in the military, and he acquited himself quite well.
    Delta784, Oct 11, 2011
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  15. kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 83K+Poster

    Al Sharpton Debates Whether Herman Cain is ‘Authentically Black’


    Rev. Al Sharpton said Friday that no matter how “black” presidential candidate Herman Cain is, his conservative views are fundamentally at odds with the rest of the black community — and white people only like him because he says what they want to hear.
    Speaking on his radio program with Professor Karen Hunter — the same person who accused the Associated Press of racism for dropping the g’s in its reporting of a President Barack Obama speech — Sharpton essentially accused Cain of forgetting his roots when it comes to his politics.
    “How could anyone in their right mind — they grew up in the south and saw what they saw — and act like everyone that is unemployed and that is not rich did it to themselves?” Sharpton said. “So I would assume he is either socially ignorant or playing games to get votes, that he couldn’t possibly have grown up and come to that conclusion unless he was one or the other.”

    Al Sharpton Debates Whether Herman Cain is ‘Authentically Black’ | TheBlaze.com
    kwflatbed, Oct 12, 2011
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  16. cc3915 Administrator

    So people like Cain because they agree with his message. I guess he's right on that one.


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    cc3915, Oct 12, 2011
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  17. HistoryHound MassCops Member

    Sounds like the reverend al will be counted among those who Cain says can't be saved.
    HistoryHound, Oct 12, 2011
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  18. CJIS MassCops Member

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    Herman Cain surged to the top of the GOP presidential field in one poll on Thursday, buttressed by strong tea party support. Tea party backers say that shows the movement isn't racist.[/TD]
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    CJIS, Oct 13, 2011
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  19. mtc High Priestess

    Forget the skin color already!!

    I like the message - can he bring it home? NOTE - again - it's the blacks that CARE about the skin color - not the message.

    The REAL threat Cain presents Sharpton's "Black community" - is that he's walking talking proof that they're full of shit!
    mtc, Oct 14, 2011
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  20. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    In my opinion, no. Many years ago, Steve Forbes surged into the primary lead for a period of time after pushing his flat tax idea, which is exactly what Cain's 9-9-9 pizza deal is. I think Cain is a shooting star like Donald Trump was, and will fizzle out before the primary.
    Delta784, Oct 14, 2011
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  21. mtc High Priestess

    Well Al Sharpton's denounced him as a member of the black community - apparently there are requirements for "being black" now.
    mtc, Oct 14, 2011
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  22. cpd4720 MassCops Member

    It has been what 3 weeks since he won the Florida straw poll and he still has only 350K in his campaign account? He has no field organization, he is not raising money. Where are all those small contributors who should be going online and donating 25 bucks? He refuses to say who is advising him. The guy who came up with his 9 9 9 plan ( which is being destroyed by both conservative and liberal economists) may have gotten it from the Sim City game.

    He has zero foreign policy experience and he knows it. Yes he made a big profit selling bad pizza and turned around some local BK lounges by getting the help to smile but this guy has zero chance at the nomination.

    The GOP race is over. Romney is their only choice.
    cpd4720, Oct 15, 2011
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  23. Wolfman "Ultima Ratio Civis"

    I wouldn't go so far as to say the guy is toast. Some real heavy hitting economists have come out in full support of the simple and effective concept of lowering taxes and broadening the base. The arguments I have heard against it are very thin; "Congress can just raise the rate!" - well guess what? Congress can raise the rates NOW. Those who think that effective and fair taxation needs to be a 50,000 page volume of laws and rules are being disingenuous, sometimes it is just that easy. His practical experience in the business world goes far beyond "selling bad pizzas" and your condescending tone does little to veil what seems to be some underlying disdain for the man. Don't hide behind chickenshit talking points, tell us why you really think he is a flash in the pan.

    The fact that Cain isn't afraid to admit that there are areas in which he is lacking; e.g. foreign policy shows a level of integrity and honesty; he is forthright in declaring that he will seek those with expertise in the field to consult on such decisions. He knows his own strengths and admits his weaknesses. I can wire a switch but when it comes time to run full service out to the barn I will call an electrician before I risk burning down my property. This knowledge of his limitations gives Cain a level of credibility far greater than any other candidate and for me that speaks volumes about his integrity and sincerity in seeking this office, as well as his level of focus and devotion should he be elected. He is not doing this for personal gain or notoriety; this is a man who I feel cares deeply about our nation and the direction that it is heading. The narcissistic douchenozzle in the WH right now was made out to be the wise Messiah who would cure all our ills with his mere presence - and look where that got us.

    Like many of the other potential nominees, Romney will tell you what you want to hear but I have yet to see any cohesive plan on how he intends to unfuck our country. Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. I firmly believe the MSM and Dems want him to be the nominee because he will be so easy to attack and denigrate prior to the elections. Between Romneycare and some drastic waffling on other political issues (2A, abortion) it will not be difficult to throw doubt into the minds of the independents and push them left.
    Wolfman, Oct 15, 2011
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  24. cpd4720 MassCops Member

    As public sector union members, I would be very reluctant to support a candidate whose major support comes from Americans for Prosperity and the Koch Brothers. How many of you would be happy if your Union was unable to collectively bargin for benefits, working conditions and wages?

    Wolfman you are 100% correct about Romney he will say and take any position if he thinks it will get him elected. But among the field of GOP contenders he is the only one who can beat Obama
    cpd4720, Oct 16, 2011
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  25. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

    But youre totally ok with a canidate that wants to take this country down?with a canidate that recieved 80% of the contributions from wallstreet in the last election?with a canidate backed by George Soros and his machine?
    justanotherparatrooper, Oct 17, 2011
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