'Fast and Furious' Guns Found at Ariz. Crime Scene

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  1. kwflatbed Subscribing Member MC1+MC2 +MC3 82K+Poster

  2. cc3915 Administrator

    Lawyers, Guns, and Money

    Last December, U.S. border patrol agent Brian Terry was murdered in a firefight with three Mexican nationals in Arizona. Two guns recovered at the crime scene were traced back to an ongoing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) investigation, informally known under the code names “Gunwalker” and “Fast and Furious.”

    As part of this investigation, ATF had allowed American firearms dealers to sell more than 2,000 guns to Mexican criminal gangs with no plan to interdict or recover the guns. Several ATF agents had expressed concern about the operation. One of the firearms dealers involved had even emailed the ATF agent in charge to express concern that the operation was putting the lives of border patrol agents at risk—six months before Terry’s murder.

    Thanks to some whistleblowers, there’s now a congressional inquiry into the Gunwalker operation. But, closing in on a year after Terry’s death, we still have no clear idea of what law enforcement goals Gunwalker was supposed to achieve. In a recent conference call with reporters, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform chairman Darrell Issa could only conclude, “This was dumb, it was useless, and it was lethal.”



    Lawyers, Guns, and Money | The Weekly Standard
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    Gunrunning Informant Used Taxpayer Money to Buy Drugs, Possibly Guns, Lawmakers Allege




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    Congressional investigators are confronting the Justice Department about evidence they say indicates an FBI informant used U.S. taxpayer money not only to buy drugs but also possibly to buy guns for the Sinaloa cartel.
    Those facts apparently were known by the FBI and DEA as early as 2009 but not passed on to key people in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which went on to spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours trying to identify that informant and others gun traffickers like him through the controversial Operation Fast and Furious.


    Read more: Gunrunning Informant Used Taxpayer Money To Buy Drugs, Possibly Guns, Lawmakers Allege | Fox News
  4. Killjoy Zombie Hunter

    The rabbit-hole gets deeper and deeper. Notice how both Holder and Obama manage to dodge the sh*t flying from this like a teflon don. Why isn't the media holding Holder and Obama's feet to the fire? Why isn't (at least) Holder fired, and perhaps prosecuted?
  5. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    Because this is how they view him;

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  7. Pvt. Cowboy Meathead.

    Holder perjure himself? Goooood Lord that would be awesome...
  8. CJIS MassCops Member

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    Top congressional Republicans say Attorney General Eric
    Holder received weekly memos starting in July 2010 about
    controversial gunrunning probe known as Operation Fast
    and Furious, though he claimed this past May he only
    learned of the operation a few weeks prior.



    VIDEO: Did Holder Mislead Congress on Fast & Furious?
  10. 7costanza . . .

    I will accept nothing less than Holders job and him being charged, it will most likely end their since Obama still has his teflon suit on.
  11. Pvt. Cowboy Meathead.


    Agreed!! This guy needs to go down in flames and made an example of. This was definitely a piss poor attempt by the democrat scumbag fucks trying "grease the logbook" by making it appear that responsible firearms owners are somehow to blame. This sickens me to no end... I'm glad this failed miserably and these idiots are going to get burned. This is just as bad as democrats committing voter fraud.
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    Holder Challenges 'Fast and Furious' Allegations in Scathing Letter to Congress


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    Attorney General Eric Holder speaks during a conference at the 66th session of the General Assembly at United Nations headquarters on Sept. 19.

    Attorney General Eric Holder, under new pressure from Republicans over when he learned of "Operation Fast and Furious," has mounted his most forceful defense to date, accusing critics of using "irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric" and insisting his statements have been "truthful and accurate."
    "I have no recollection of knowing about 'Fast and Furious' or of hearing its name prior to the public controversy about it," Holder wrote in a letter to congressional leaders Friday. "Prior to early 2011, I certainly never knew about the tactics employed in the operation."


    Read more: Holder Challenges 'Fast And Furious' Allegations In Scathing Letter To Congress | Fox News
  13. Delta784 Acting Stupidly

    It's much worse....there is no known direct connection between voter fraud and the murders of US Border Patrol Agents.
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    Arizona sheriffs blast gun-smuggling operation [HR][/HR]
    PHOENIX (AP) -- Ten Arizona sheriffs slammed the Obama administration on Friday over a botched federal operation that that lost track of up to 1,400 weapons sold to suspected straw purchasers for Mexican drug gangs.
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  16. Pvt. Cowboy Meathead.

    Hahahaha fuckkkkk youuuuu Holder!!
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    Re: Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico (Merged Threads)

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    Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home

    Reporting from Washington—
    High-powered assault weapons illegally purchased under the ATF's Fast and Furious program in Phoenix ended up in a home belonging to the purported top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, whose organization was terrorizing that city with the worst violence in the Mexican drug wars.

    In all, 100 assault weapons acquired under Fast and Furious were transported 350 miles from Phoenix to El Paso, making that West Texas city a central hub for gun traffickers. Forty of the weapons made it across the border and into the arsenal of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a feared cartel leader in Ciudad Juarez, according to federal court records and trace documents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

    The smugglers' tactics — quickly moving the weapons far from ATF agents in southern Arizona, where it had been assumed they would circulate — vividly demonstrate that what had been viewed as a local problem was much larger. Six other Fast and Furious guns destined for El Paso were recovered in Columbus, N.M.

    Fast and Furious weapons found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home - latimes.com
  19. OfficerObie59 Public Trough Feeder

    Re: Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico (Merged Threads)

    A notary can send out an subpeaona. Big deal...I'm sick of all this "well, someone should be investigatiing this...." Just STFU and do it already.
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  22. justanotherparatrooper Pissin' in liberals cheerio's for 40 years :)

    well all Holder has to do to make the commitee eat thir words is release the documents they supenaed....without the redactions :)
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    Napolitano Grilled Over ‘Fast and Furious,’ Likens Hearing to Cross Examination




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      Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2011, before the House Judiciary Committee hearing on immigration and Southwest border issues.
    House Republicans on Wednesday turned their sharp questioning over "Operation Fast and Furious" toward Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who acknowledged her agents were twice told to "stand down" in deference to what she called a "very troublesome" operation.
    Napolitano, at one point likening the questioning to a cross-examination, said repeatedly she only learned of "Fast and Furious" after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in December. She emphasized the operation, conceived and run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, "was an ATF operation," under the auspices of the Justice Department, not her department.


    Read more: Napolitano Grilled Over
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