DNC Charlotte: Identification required, even just near convention site

Talk about double standards.

Oh, dear! What will Ellen Barkin, Michael Moore, Joe Biden, the NAACP, Attorney General Eric Holder and his apologists, Rep. Keith Ellison, and other unhinged leftists (redundant) say about this suppress-y turn of events? As they have told us, over and over, there is nothing more bigoted than requiring photo identification. Well, except for maybe “kitchen cabinets” and “chairs.“
What will Rob Delaney say about this latest “suppression?”

From the convention website:

Please complete the following form regarding your organization’s primary contact information and the authorized designee(s) to whom your 2012 Democratic National Convention credentials can be issued.
Authorized Pickup
All pickup persons must have a state-issued ID that matches the name submitted below.

We suppose it shouldn’t be surprising, what with the racist Democratic National Convention line-up being paler than the MSNBC masthead. Conservatives call out the DNC for their rampant hypocrisy. Oh, the irony!

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/national-debt-clock-convention/2012/09/03/id/450639

As the DNC starts, our NATIONAL DEBT will hit 16 TRILLION dollars (was around 10 Trillion when Obama took over)..........it's amazing how anyone that loves this country could vote for this guy (Obama)............

But...but...didn't you hear? It's all Bush's fault!

Hah! Credentials are racist....except when I need them to secure my facility.

It's funny how they still blame Bush. Did he (Bush) spend the 6 Trillion after he was out of office somehow? And many voters still fall for this crap.......

Technically, voting and getting into a convention are totally different things. You can't really compare the two.

Um, yeah you can.

It's ABSURD that they need an ID to enter a convention, considering you don't even need to prove you're who you say you are when casting a ballot for the presidential election.

Completely fucked, there is ZERO LOGIC that justifies this.

One is a guarantee in the state constitution usually, and if the ID requires even 1 cent to get, it's a violation of the 24h amendment. This is the case for a lot of them, you need a birth certificate or something to even get the ID.

Section 1.The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Also, the DNC/RNC are places with highly placed politicians. Of course they're going to check IDs, some assassin might get in. The Secret Service is there protecting the place. Everyone can vote unless barred by the state they're in, like being a convict, etc. Not everyone can get into a convention. It's not even comparable.

I mean we've put up with "free speech zones" since Bush and they were justified by the government with "safety" as the reason.

You're talking about being imposed a TAX to vote, versus verifying your identity. You're comparing apples to moonrocks. Possessing an ID, or having to pay for a means to identify yourself is not... Say it with me now... NOT A TAX.

Assassins at the DNC? Really? What brand tin foil do you use?

It was an example, if someone wanted to kill the President or some politician they could do it at any time theoretically. I'm not saying they're going to, but they could try I guess.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/30/us-usa-court-texas-voterid-idUSBRE87T11120120830

"During the July trial, lawyers from the U.S. Department of Justice equated that purchase to an illegal poll tax."


The poll tax was simply a required payment to vote to stop poor black voters for being able to. If getting an ID costs money, it's the same thing.

Voter ID laws are fine if they're free to get. In PA they are, you sign a paper and get a free ID and that's it.

The one thing I forgot though is voter fraud is incredibly rare, so voter ID laws are kind of pointless.

" The one thing I forgot though is voter fraud is incredibly rare, so voter ID laws are kind of pointless. "

Who the hell are you trying to fool, just do a search anywhere and you will see how
rampart it is,thats one reason why OBAMA is in The White House Now !!!!!

Really? I've asked people for the evidence but they never show it. All investigations into voter fraud have shown it's very rare. People aren't risking jail time for a single vote out of millions you know?

People voted for Obama because they believed his bullshit while he continued the plan that started with Bush, just like Romney would if elected!

They both love big government and I love small government and freedom! Gary Johnson 2012

You're vote libertarian, and don't think voter fraud exists? ok
It's run by the government...

I need evidence that shows extensive voter fraud, otherwise people are wasting money and creating a bigger nanny government with these laws.

I'm against big government taking away freedoms and making more and more laws. This is just another law, I need the proof.

Just put a photo on their EBT card...they all have one of those
This cry of racism over voter ID is ridiculous, and anyone reasonable cam see right through it. We have to show ID for EVERYTHING these days. Electing the leader of the free world should be taken as seriously as possible, and should have safeguards in place. With groups like ACORN signing up Mickey Mouse, and illegals flooding into this country expecting to "get paid" you're goddamn right you should have to show ID in order to vote. Anyone too dumb, or too LAZY to not have a photo ID in 2012 really shouldn't be voting anyways.

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If Gary Johnson had a legitimate chance of getting elected, would you be concerned with voter fraud?

My opinion would be exactly the same.

Illegals aren't risking being deported to cast a single vote.

People aren't voting multiple times and risking fines and jail time en masse.

The ACORN thing wasn't voter fraud and no one was voting with the names. The stupid organization decided to pay employees for more registrations. So people cheated for money, got caught and that ended. All that happened was more people were registered than existed.

Like I said this can all be bypassed, mail everyone in every state an ID if they don't have one and the poll tax thing goes away. It's still a waste of money and time for the laws though.

Yeah, and theyre not risking deportation by driving drunk or committing other crimes either, thanks to your buddy's amnesty program. And yes, all those extra names ARE on the rolls now. What's to stop them from being used in the future?
Its not a poll tax dummy. What about those poor minorities without cars? Are we now obligated to pick them up, or better yet go door to door?
The electoral process in this country is already fucked and corrupt enough, why not try making it better instead of making it worse.
I wish the new black panthers would try swinging a club outside MY local school on election day.


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The 24th amd applies to citizens right? Is it really beyond the scope of reasonableness to verify that someone is a citizen prior to enjoying said protection? If we had closed borders and a handle on immigration sure. We don't. Cat is out of bag. I'm perfectly fine with free IDs. Get rid of all the other free shit.

I still need some evidence. Some illegals have committed crimes so they must be illegally voting? That's crazy.

I didn't hear this much complaining with Diebold's untraceable electronic voting. That shit can be hacked and have tons of votes changed easily, an ID wouldn't stop it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_per_head#United_States

Poll Tax
"The term was widely used in the South at the turn of the 20th century in combination with other measures as a means of disfranchisement to bar poor people, especially blacks, from voter registration and voting."

Recent debate has arisen about whether requiring citizens to purchase a state identification card acts as a poll tax and bars poor voters from voting.[3] To reduce cost, some states offer free identification cards for those who can demonstrate the need. However, significant additional costs can be incurred by individuals to acquire a "free" ID, as they need to provide other proof of identity. In addition to travel costs or potential lost wages, a certified copy of a birth certificate costs from $10 to $45 depending on the state, a passport costs $85, and certified naturalization papers cost $19.95. About 12 percent of voting-age Americans lack a driver's license and would need such state identification cards"

I don't honestly care all that much about the race argument. My point is without proof, these laws are big government nanny state BS.

That's why I don't vote Republican, they use laws to restrict rights and make bigger government all the time.

When I vote they have my name already on paper from voter registration rolls, and those usually have to go through a process and you've got to be a citizen.

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elepdf/2012-Voter-reg-mail-in.pdf

According to this it says Federal law already requires an ID to register to vote.

Doesn't that make the laws extra pointless then?

No IDs required when I registered. No IDS required when I vote. Who are you? I'm X. Do you live here? While they point at all my personal info on page. Sure.

You on one hand said that Acorn was only registering people for extra $, but tell me the law requires proof of citizenship at that phase. What the fuck do you think they were going to do with the registrations?

Hush, you're way off base. They don't drive around without licenses, and the show up to court with $500.00 cash to pay the fine each and every time, only to keep committing said violation of operating without a license. Such acts of criminal behavior would risk them being deported ........ So why on gods green earth would they ever walk up to a voting booth and risk voting......they could be....deported......

I'd be willing to donate to allow the less fortunate legal citizens in this country to be able to have a free government issued ID ( in order to produce it at polling stations) , and proceeds could go towards funding additional ICE Agents.

Minnesota Leads the Nation in Voter Fraud Convictions

113 convictions represent small fraction of total unlawful votes
ST. PAUL, Minn., Oct. 13, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Minnesota Majority today released a report on voter fraud convictions to date stemming from Minnesota's 2008 general election. The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.
"As far as we can tell, this is the largest number of voter fraud convictions arising from a single election in the past 75 years," said Minnesota Majority president Jeff Davis, "Prosecutions are still underway and so there will likely be even more convictions."
The highest number of convictions ever recorded in the United States came from the 1936 Jackson County, Missouri elections in which 259 individuals were convicted of voter fraud. A more recent five-year probe by the United States Department of Justice identified just 53 convictions for voter fraud nationwide.
"It's mind-boggling to me that as a tiny non-profit corporation, we netted more than double the number of convictions in one year than the US Department of Justice was able to find in five," said Davis.
Minnesota's recent charges and convictions stem from research initiated by Minnesota Majority. The research identified upwards of 2,800 ineligible felons believed to have unlawfully voted in Minnesota's 2008 general election.

PR Newswire (http://s.tt/1bGCZ)

This is just one example