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Discussion in 'State Police' started by LawMan3, Mar 10, 2012.
B.C., A.D., or Mayan calender?
Due to the Mayans not accounting for leap-years, we're already dead.
Then I guess it's a moot topic.
Can't go wrong with removable tattoos! That's the USAF's policy.
Well, while we're on the topic, what is the new official policy on tattoos? I've heard they can't be "visible while in uniform" but what's the tolerance for it? Ok if it peeks out if you raise your arms? Options to wear something to cover it?
Just curious, but now I'm second guessing my ink even though its above my elbow.
I'm glad you mentioned that pvt cowboy... I have only one tattoo on my wrist ( my daughter 's name) that is easily coverable with a watch and is not visible with a short sleeve shirt but a tattoo is a tattoo and a rule is a rule... I'd hate to automatically be out for that
Get it removed.
I'm waiting for someone to formally challenge this policy.
I think they would be tilting at windmills.
Q5 don't forget the winter uniforms too...you never know with those people with ink on their neck
We like to refer to neck tattoos as "salary caps."
Does Springfield PD have a lax tattoo policy? Met a couple guys a few years back with the neck tattoos.
Great guys, but I was surprised by the placement of the ink.
Would this guy make the cut?
The facial hair would sink him........
A recent thread got locked down before I could post this where I wanted to. However, it is one of my old posts regarding the issue of shared jurisdiction... This thread seemed as good a place as any to dump it.
The State/Local relationship has been, and will continue to be, symbiotic in nature. However, what's the point in letting another agency "rent space up in your head"?
For example, "Poaching"...Give me a break. And attitudes like, "We'll call you if we need you"... Honestly, WTF!
I've been on both teams, and have an open mind about the various arguments on this thread, but come on all. That's some bitter, deep seated envy and resentment posted here. What gives some of you so much heartburn about the other?
As a local, my responsibilities included patrolling EVERY square mile in the town, where two major highways also intersected. You'll never hear me apologize for generating the occasional arrest on the highway, or gripe about booking the occasional crash up there either...WHY?...Because it was shared jurisdiction. And you sure as hell won't hear me apologize now for enjoying the freedom of statewide jurisdiction when I generate some proactive criminal enforcement activity off of the big road in your city or town as a Trooper...WHY?...Because it is shared jurisdiction. Neither scenario is poaching, the only issue here is whether you are welcome there or not...check your attitude on that point.
When delayed, most decent guys in this profession will just ask you to hold onto the pertinent info (invest or accident) until they get there, and then will step-up and relieve your pain by handling it themselves, I will always offer to do that. Try it sometimes, it's called doing the right thing.
Let's face it, there will be times when another agency might need you to respond to something which they are unable to execute due to availability or exigency: Some of it Good Shit, and Some Bad, (for example: An unmarked DEA unit requests assistance in stopping a car travelling on/in your road/city which is known to them to be operated by a gun carrying felon in possession of several kilos of cocaine), are you going to cry foul and pout about having to get involved? I think not. Such is the nature of the beast, roll with it...Stay safe all.
Good Luck 81st.
I have absolutely, positively, no problem with ANY police officer who has jurisdiction in my city (which would be MSP, Transit, and MEP) taking a crash report for me (and several have been gracious enough to do so).
However, I chose my shift & sector for a reason, and I much prefer to deal with the shit in my sector on my terms. I don't even like other QPD Officers taking my calls unless it's unavoidable, because it's my beat.....I'll deal with it in the way I see fit, because I'm ultimately responsible for my sector, and that's the way I like it.
I also have no problem with ANYONE coming to help me if the shit hits the fan and I need help. Over my career, I've been bailed out (in no special order) by the Boston Police, MSP, Registry Police, Northeastern University Police, Harvard University Police, and Wentworth Institute of Technology Police.
But......if I need help, you can bet your ass I'll ask for it. What I don't like is when someone from an outside agency (usually a trooper, sorry) comes to one of my calls and starts asking hot-button questions that might land me in a 2-hour report jackpot. When I'm the backup officer for someone on my own job, never mind for someone with a different agency, I don't say an effing word unless the primary officer asks me to do it.
Back up officers job is always to stfu unless there is an officer safety issue.
I was a local before, I've got shit from both sides, trust me. Plenty of locals think we don't do any real police work, and all we should do is sit on the highway and gig people. The patch on my shoulder says State Police, not MA Highway Patrol.
I have no problem with any cop coming up on the highway. Knock yourself out. You're just slowing people down and its one less crash I'll have to book.
At the end of the day we are all on the SAME TEAM.
I think those of us who play in the neighborhood know exactly who you're referring to... no apology neccessary!
I couldn't agree more, but we also have to remain cognizant that when we don't take care of our primary responsibilities, it sometimes burdens team members with a different patch.
For example, it goes up my ass sideways when we have to book a crash on Quincy Shore Drive or Furnace Brook Parkway because "the state has no one available" and I know that they're at the scene of a shooting in Boston (our radios have scan capability). The Boston Police are quite capable of handling that on their own after the scene is secured, which usually takes a matter of minutes, if not seconds.
In fairness, that hasn't happened in awhile, but it was common practice awhile ago.
Or when you get a call at Quincy Center T station and a certain T Officer is in the office, yards from the call, and you don't see him show up. He is well known for this.
Yup....unless someone is actively being assaulted, I just tell dispatch to notify the Transit Police, then I leave.
On the rare occasions that he actually is there, I've come close to pulling his handcuffs off his belt, cuffing the problem, and then tossing the prisoner to him before I get in my cruiser and leave. I absolutely refuse to take an arrest when he's there, I don't care how much of spectacle there is going on.
Ok back on topic.
Day 1 of runs for the 81st. Just under 50% showed and several failures.
These are 98's so once they're done we'll see if the 97's are any different (doubtful)
At this rate the actual pool should be in the 500's after the run wraps up mid-month.
How the F do under 50% show up???